Talk:Three Telos Model

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Podcast mention
This page was favourably mentioned on a politics podcast. RobLa, is this something worth mentioning on the actual topic page? --Dr. Edmonds (talk) 06:44, 30 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Possibly. Is the podcaster a source of reliable information?  How reliable would the folks over on English Wikipedia consider them to be?  -- RobLa (talk) 22:09, 30 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I have watched a number of their podcasts. I would say it is much more reliably than average and have no intent to deceive. I have no idea how the Wikipedia people would view them. They have proper degrees and seem to attempt to cover the topics well. They do switch topics each week so clearly they would not be an expert on all topics. Have a look at the profiles of the podcasters, Josh Fermeand Hugo Hythloday to make your own judgement. Or better yet, watch the actual podcast. --Dr. Edmonds (talk) 03:46, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Extra Information that might be of interest
For some introduction on this topic:
 * AA's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qATRlOvfr0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jEzmoTcaic
 * Charlemagne's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twi_6NgsJWU

In the Political Front

 * Poseidon Awoke's NRx Trichotomy: https://archive.fo/gDanF
 * Alt-Left trichotomy https://archive.fo/CSX4V
 * Post-Modern trichotomy http://www.ijhssnet.com/journals/Vol._1_No._4;_April_2011/17.pdf
 * Gentry, Commoners and Clients https://archive.fo/KD7Q9 https://archive.fo/VCFaB
 * Cultural Hierarchy reapplied to The Office: https://archive.ph/K7TEY https://archive.fo/rYjwH

Idea: Each Telos corresponds to an ideology's defense system

In the Psychological Front

 * Nietzsche's tripartite mind: https://archive.fo/OA9Wu
 * Plato's Tripartite mind: https://archive.fo/mfhTW
 * Normapollo's video on the Dark Triad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdKwEx3xeoA
 * Comte: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Law_of_three_stages

Idea: Three Telos have existed for a long time

In the Religious and Cultural Front

 * 3D Gospel (Shame/Guilt/Fear) in secular: https://archive.fo/Lmadx
 * 3D Gospel Belief Table: https://archive.fo/bws94
 * Related Gospel Table: https://archive.fo/LhGB0
 * Reference to Ethnic Native Cultures https://archive.fo/v4YjA/bae8b40e7d4800b8139508ce98ee361fd26f9c83.webp
 * Secular Cultural Equivalents through the Lewis Model https://my.uopeople.edu/pluginfile.php/57436/mod_book/chapter/38890/BUS2207U3Text1.pdf

Idea: Telos deviations exist on a global scale

Quantification of Beliefs
* http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/per.750 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S019188691200342X * http://schmolck.org/smk_poster_tartu.pdf * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092656620300453 * http://dip38.psi.uniroma1.it/web/30annipsicologia/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Chirumbolo_Leone-Antecedenti-e-conseguenze-di-RWA-e-SDO-2-Roma-18-10-2013.pdf * http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1369183X.2018.1444470 * https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/bjso.12452 * http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/pops.12361 * https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-020-00235-z * Tradition/Authoritarian: Purity-Authority-Loyalty = RWA * Compassion/Universalizing: Fairness-Care = IWAH * Liberty/Dominating: Liberty = SDO
 * SDO and RWA (Libertarian Dominance and Authority as an Index)
 * Moral Foundations Theory or Evolutionary-Coalitional Theory
 * Classification:

Conclusion or further leads to research: This tripartite model can be cross-referenced and measured between Hadit's MFT, SDO/RWA/IWAH indices, Political Beliefs ala 8Values, 9Axes, 12Axes, PolitiScales, DichotomyTests, https://10groups.github.io/ (hope OP can reference this) If there is a way to cleverly cross-correlate Questions within this test, the ideological space can be reduced (hopefully) to only three dimensions. Inventory Correlations has been done for Big Five and HEXACO, and also MFT vs ECT.

Trichot (talk) 16:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Political Triangle

 * https://archive.fo/qui8m/204f6862a252e430375959b175f8c373363f90a9.jpg
 * https://archive.fo/UihAu/6bf33f803161660fd25590969741f481159c1154.jpg

Political Cube

 * https://archive.fo/Rfg9F/ec5ce8e9596ddb00776a6b7e778c9590c2a107a1.png
 * https://archive.fo/tZZP3/793e7e8c430dffe21cbd99ddf2c3fddc22c58bf1.png