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Not all sequential methods are defined this way. Case in point: sequential Ebert, sequentially shrinking quota (though I guess you could define these methods as the selection algorithm and make the re-weighting mechanism do nothing). Perhaps you should say that this is just a common way that they are defined. [[User:ParkerFriedland|ParkerFriedland]] ([[User talk:ParkerFriedland|talk]]) 08:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 
: Hi [[User:ParkerFriedland|ParkerFriedland]]. Well this is the whole point of a wiki page. I did my best writing this page and am not surprised there are some gaps or things needing clarification. I would not call Schulze_STV an optimal system. Optimal is not synonymous with "elects all at once" but classifies based on the fact that it optimizes a quality function. For a quality function to work it has to use real numbers not ranks. Of course you are right that using borda count would be a method to make an ordinal optimal system. But [[Monroe's method]] listed in the optimal systems. Maybe we just need a name for the class of systems like Schulze_STV which do not use borda so there is not quality function possible. Maybe there is one already, I have not studied them. I do not think optimal is fitting. You are right about the SSQ systems not fitting my definition of sequential. Of course SSQ did not exist when I wrote that and I did not know of the others which did. Anyway, I have posed on the forum about the "new class" of sequential systems. There are these select/reweight type and then the other. Please help make the page better. Also, the [[Monroe's method]] page needs some attention. I would suggest that both the ordinal and cardinal variants are discussed on the same page. [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] has been pushing for a better taxonomy/categorization of systems. It is going to be tricky. Look at this [[Electowiki_talk:The_caucus#Categories|post]] --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 18:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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