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::: I do not think the consensus candidate argument applies or is even a definable statement in a two candidate race. I think in summary it is possible that voters do vote in lots of crazy ways that ultimately hurt them. Steven Brams says this is why he prefers Approval to Score. he does not trust them to vote properly. It is ultimately an empirical question. Talking about things like grading in the Olympics is not a reasonable analogy. We need examples of actual high stakes political races. I would think the talk tomorrow should provide some empirical evidence. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 03:17, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::: [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] It seems the problem is not investigated. I am going to push them to do so in their upcoming paper. I did come across this other [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282617314_How_voters_use_grade_scales_in_evaluative_voting paper] which as two important results. The first being that when using a scale with negatives voters tend not to give unknown candidates a negative score as they should. This means [0,x] scales should be used. The second result is that different x values produce consistent scoring. This is good to see. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 18:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
::::: [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] Yes, you are right. There are dumb voters who who self weaken their voting power by not putting anybody at the extrema. From data it looks to be around a few percent which is higher than the fraction who give everybody a zero or spoil their ballot. It is more common for voters to put nobody at the MAX than to put nobody at the MIN. One solution is to rescale their ballots as in the first step in [[Baldwin's method]] then tabulate as normal using score. This will likely rarely change results but if it does there could be protests. Seems weird to alter ballots anyway so maybe it is just better to tell people what the consequence of doing this is. Another solution is to limit the options with approval voting or to use Baldwin's method itself. There is however, also a reasonable argument to not solve the issue and let dumb voters hurt themselves. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 20:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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