Talk:Cardinal voting systems

Should this just be merged into Category:Cardinal voting methods? — Psephomancy (talk) 05:28, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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"Score voting has the lowest Bayesian Regret among all common single-winner election methods"

Should always clarify that BR/SUE/VSE are measurements, and that evaluation of methods depends on the assumptions made in the simulations. In other words, distinguish Smith's BR simulations from BR itself, and Quinn's/Merrill's VSE/SUE simulations from VSE/SUE itself. I could run BR simulations with different voter distributions that give different results, for instance.

"Simply put, voting in the range [0,1] or [0,100] or even [-42,7] is irrelevant."

This isn't true in the real world, because of the psychological impact of negative numbers. See https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs-01618039/document etc

Also I think it's good to use the term "Score voting" for real-world systems with discrete score levels, and "Range voting" for mathematical simulations with real numbers from 0 to 1, as in the references on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_voting#Variants.

— Psephomancy (talk) 17:46, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

(There is never incentive for favorite betrayal by giving a higher score to a candidate who is liked less.), (Furthermore, all cardinal methods satisfy the participation criterion.), and, can Smith//Score or Condorcet//Score be considered cardinal methods?

Some of the points made about cardinal methods on this page seem to ignore STAR Voting. Wikipedia says that STAR fails the participation criterion, and the STAR Voting website has an article mentioning that STAR fails Favorite Betrayal. So maybe a distinction should be made between "classical/pure cardinal" methods, such as Approval and Score, and "semi-cardinal" methods like STAR. I think this rangevoting article also has examples featuring other criterion failures that don't occur in Approval or Score.

Also, I'd like to ask if Smith//Score or Condorcet//Score can reasonably be added to this page as cardinal (or semi-cardinal?) methods. Both methods use cardinal information when there is no weak Condorcet winner. BetterVotingAdvocacy (talk) 21:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)