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: I think they're distinct things. The LCR example is a specific election example that demonstrates center squeeze in methods that are biased away from the center, while the left-right political spectrum is a more broad concept. If the left and right wings are sufficiently weak, even IRV will elect the center, for instance. But it might be useful to make it more clear that LCR is meant to be a somewhat realistic example of what could happen in left-right politics with three strong parties (one at each wing and one at the center). So perhaps not an outright merge, but some referencing to either article in the other. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 09:36, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 
:: Yeah, they're distinct things, but there's no reason why [[Left, Center, Right]] can't be a section of the larger "[[Left-right political spectrum]]" article, is there? If you were new to electoral reform, how would you tell which article to refer to? It seems to me that we don't need an article for every molecule in the universe, even if those molecules are distinct things, do we? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 00:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 
::: Let me rephrase: Let's say that we have a technical aspect and a political aspect to voting methods. Then it seems to me that the LCR example (as example) is more about the technical aspect than the political aspect. The example exercises a certain type of failure in methods that have this failure (namely center squeeze), and also demonstrates why it's not possible to both have good consensus representation and proportional results at once (the house monotonicity part). These failures have political implications, it's true, but to me it seems like this article is more about how a partisan one-dimensional politics behaves - e.g. what's considered left-wing, right-wing, and how polarization can lead to problems when the wings become less interested in compromise.
 
::: If we're to merge LCR, then as a technical thing, I think it would fit more with [[Center squeeze]] than [[Left-right political spectrum]], perhaps with a section here about how methods that are biased either towards or away from the wings can distort partisan politics, with center squeeze in general and LCR in particular being a good example. But that would also kind of obscure the house monotonicity part of LCR.
 
::: If you think it's possible to integrate the technical part of LCR into this article without the result turning into too much of a mess, then I'll try to do so. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 15:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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