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:: This is a tangent to my point but sure. The first line of this page states "Proportional Representation (PR) is a measure of the outcome of an election where there are multiple parties and multiple members are elected." A measure is a calculated value or metric and this page explains that in the very first section by giving examples. So PR is a number which is calculated after an election. Systems are not PR even though it is common for lay people to talk about "PR systems". The sections "Proportional Representation Criteria" and "Proportional Systems" explain how there is no possible consistent criteria for what could be used to do this. All this implies that when you talk about systems you should talk about a relative metric. Systems which get relatively high PR under one definition will get high PR under all other definitions. Maybe this seems pedantic but I would rather not be on record talking like a layperson. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 03:14, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
::: I'd like to converge with the English Wikipedia counterpart to this article (here: [[wikipedia:Proportional representation]]), which lists all of these systems. It may be that we ''really'' need to trim back what I added, but generally, we need this article (and the Wikipedia counterpart) to be accessible to the layperson. In particular, it should ''specifically'' be accessible to the type of layperson who has just read the Wikipedia counterpart, and who talks about "PR systems" (like me). I disagree with your assertion that "''when you talk about systems you should talk about a relative metric''"; I think that's way too far in the weeds for most people learning about election methods. The systems that I added from Wikipedia with "high PR" (as you describe the metric) are what laypeople general refer to as "proportional representation systems".
::: I suppose the descriptions for the systems that I just added should be more concise, and that ''maybe'' we should switch away from [[Wikipedia:Summary style]] to a bulleted list to catalog some of the "high PR" systems that are "notable" by [[English Wikipedia]] standards (because they're already in use in large public elections). I want to make sure we don't deviate too strongly from the structure of the English Wikipedia in this regard. Since the English Wikipedia article "[[Wikipedia:Proportional representation|Proportional representation]]" links to "[[Wikipedia:Party-list proportional representation|Party-list proportional representation]]", I'd like to make sure that electowiki's "[[Proportional representation]]" article clearly links to "[[Party-list proportional representation]]" as well. Assuming there are "100s of systems" worth noting on [[electowiki]], we can solve that problem when have 100s of articles describing said systems. I'll also note that you may have inspired me to rewrite the first line of the article. :-) -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 04:56, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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