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A "voting method" to me sounds like a method for filling out a ballot. Back in 2017, [[wikipedia:User:Homunq]] tried to rename "[[wikipedia:Voting system]]" to "[[wikipedia:Voting method]]". The consensus (which I think was a better conclusion) as to rename the article to "[[wikipedia:Electoral system]]". That seems good enough to me. Could we rename this category to "Electoral methods", so as to reserve the term "voting" for the actual thing that voters do on election day? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 03:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
: I would ask whether the EPOV supports RobLa's request to make "voting method" be used to describe the way people fill out their ballots on election day. Personally, I think the term "voting method" has pretty unambiguously been used by everyone to mean "method of electing representatives". In fact, given the current debate over mail-in balloting during the pandemic, I'd like to create an article discussing exactly the concept that you refer to as "voting method", but I'd strongly prefer to use a different term (such as "balloting method") to name it. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 21:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
== Electoral systems ==
Barring compelling objection, I intend to rename this category to "Electoral systems" in June 2020. Comments still welcome at Category_talk:Voting methods, but to we've been discussing this for months, and it's time to align ourselves with Wikipedia's chosen terminology. Additionally, most of the prose from this article will be moved to Electoral system, and the category page will become a much more succinct description of what "electoral systems" are. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 02:55, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
: Do you have any sources where the major North American voting reform organizations use "voting method" to mean something other than "electoral system"? I'm not objecting to this change, but I'm curious. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 05:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:: I'm not planning on gathering evidence. [[English Wikipedia]] clearly went through years of discussion arriving at the current terminology. I don't agree with everything that gets consensus in that community, but that [[wikipedia:Voting method]] redirects to prose about the mechanisms+logistics of voting (e.g. paper ballots, machine voting, online voting, postal voting and other methods), it seems self-defeating to try to redefine the term on electowiki. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 21:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
== Rename happened ==
I wasn't ''planning'' on making the move today, but the discrepancy with [[English Wikipedia]] was driving me nuts. Moreover, this is "electowiki", not "votiwiki".
As anticipated, the move was messy. The history of the old [[:Category:Voting methods]] page can now be found at [[Electowiki:Electoral systems]]. At least, that's where it is right now. I *might* merge the history back in with the [[:Category:Voting methods]], or I might move it to [[Electowiki:Voting methods]]. TBD. I just want to wrap things up for tonight. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 06:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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