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→Redirects to Wikipedia: providing a long rationale for setting up "Offsite:" namespace in the next couple of days.
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: I don't know if there's a configuration setting, but the ones I just made are just built into citation templates, I didn't want there to be red links in reference lists. They aren't things that we should ever have articles on. — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 20:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
:: Perhaps we should create an "Offsite:" namespace, which is basically were we put the stub articles like the [[Enwiki]] article that I just created. We can come up with policies regarding the articles in the "Offsite:" namespace, such as "no more than N characters", where "N" is a reasonably small number (e.g. 1000). Anything in the "Offsite:" namespace is a light annotation before sending the reader off to another site (be that Wikipedia, or C4ES, or some other site. The main namespace can redirect to the "Offsite:" page, and then the "Offsite:" page can be a clear link to another website. Thoughts? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 22:03, 9 May 2020 (UTC):
::: But that wouldn't work for the redirects I just created, which would need to be pre-pended by "Offsite:"? Ideally we would just use interwiki redirects for things like that, but they would have one of those "you are being redirected offsite in x seconds" messages before actually going there.
::: However, for other things, like [[Nanson's method]], it's good to keep all the content on Wikipedia, but still have the method appear in our category hierarchy, so it's just a stub with categories that links to WP. — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 23:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
:::: After discovering the old state of [[Duverger's law]], I've become convinced that we need a new namespace for pointers to offsite content. The problem was that searching for "Duverger's law" in the search box on Electowiki and hiting "enter" caused the reader to get immediately transported to [[wikipedia:Duverger's law]]. As of right now, you can see the same effect by typing "JSTOR" in the search box and hitting "enter".
:::: The way that I'd like to use a new offsite namespace is very similarly to the new [[CiteSeerX]] pointer. [[CiteSeerX]] points to [[Electowiki:CiteSeerX]], which provides a brief pointer to [[wikipedia:CiteSeerX]]. [[User:Psephomancy]], you're probably right that in the ideal case, we'd have one of those "you are being redirected offsite in x seconds" interstitials, but I think we can make a [[:Template:Offsite]] that makes it very clear how to manually advance to Wikipedia. Regardless, I appreciate that [[CiteSeerX]] doesn't show up in the [[Special:AllPages]] when redirects are excluded, and that it doesn't show up in [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Article_count|our article count]]. It's possible tha "Disambiguation:" should be another namespace, but we don't need to decide that yet.
:::: For cleaning up redlinks, I would rather just fix the articles to link to Wikipedia directly (when appropriate), rather than link to Wikipedia via redirect. Barring objections in the next couple of days, I'll set up that "Offsite:" namespace -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 04:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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