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What do people think of using this space to hone our propaganda? Here's examples of material I would like to put up:

: Also some discussion at [[Talk:Vote_unitarity#Possibly_moving_this_article_to_.22User%3ADr._Edmonds.2FVote_Unitarity.22]]. — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 04:12, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

 

 

A question: How should the electowiki site differ from wikipedia's "voting theory" category? How do we prevent wasted effort in editing the two pages separately? In what circumstances is it okay to paste wikipedia text into electowiki and vice versa?

[[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 02:25, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

 

Hello, I am currently mulling over some ideas for coordinating and facilitating more effective delegable proxy activism. Many people have come up with this idea independently and started websites about it, but there doesn't seem to be an single unified integration of all the available information into one place on the web.

 

Anyway, rather than post something extensive here, I put some more detailed musings on this topic on my user page. Feel free to contact me if you're interested in collaborating on this. Thanks, [[User:Justin Bailey|Justin Bailey]] 16:06, 25 February 2008 (PST)

 

 

There are many different variants of the same category names.

So I'll re-categorize each page under "voting methods" and delete "voting systems" categories. [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 03:39, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

 

 

Should we use the [[mw:Extension:StructuredDiscussions|StructuredDiscussions]] extension for Talk pages? This wiki uses it, for reference: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page

:: It looks like existing talk pages will be unchanged and [[mw:Extension:StructuredDiscussions#Migrating_existing_pages|need to be migrated]], which is good. — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 05:39, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

 

 

Is there anything we can do to raise this site in Google results? If I search for "Summability criterion", <code>wiki.electorama.com</code> is the first result, but <code>electowiki.org</code> isn't on the first 5 results pages at all. The first result actually points to Category:Voting system criteria, which is weird.

It's not possible to do the first method since that requires me to own both miraheze.org and electowiki.org and it seems like an obsolete method anyway. I don't think I have the power to do any of the others, either. — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 02:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

 

 

It might be good to have a template to reference mailing list posts. Is there a unique ID for each post or something like that? — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 17:09, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

 

 

Should probably have a Help page to explain the features that aren't present on Wikipedia, list the Wikipedia features that aren't present here, and link to Wikipedia for the things that are the same. For now, check out [[User:Psephomancy/Sandbox]] — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 05:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

 

 

Which of these should be moved to Electowiki: space?

:Hi [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]], a belated thank you for this list. I copied it over to [[User:RobLa/Electorama 2005 cleanup]], and I have the cleanup task on [[User:RobLa/TODO|my TODO list]] -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 00:46, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

 

 

I'm going to start archiving off older discussions. We don't have a bot framework to do it automatically yet, but I'll be copying things off to child articles much like the bots do on Wikipedia talk pages. I'm also going to be reordering these so that new stuff shows up on the bottom -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 01:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

 

 

Whoa, I didn't know interwiki redirects worked!

::: I love those interwiki links too (see [[Help_talk:Links]] for more) -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 06:04, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

 

 

[[Special:UncategorizedPages|The list of uncategorized articles]] is growing over time, but I'd like it to always be shrinking to zero.

::: [[User:Psephomancy]], I think my suggestion on this point would be that most articles should go into the deepest sub-categories possible, but for a minority of them (the most prominent ones, such as FPTP), they should be allowed to go into multiple categories where users might like to see them. Something like Schulze is probably the most prominent Condorcet method, for example, so it's reasonable to put it in both (Category:Smith-efficient Condorcet methods) and (Category:Condorcet methods) to maximize the odds that people to whom the information is pertinent will see it. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 06:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

 

 

Bill Gates reportedly said "''Measuring software productivity by lines of code is like measuring progress on an airplane by how much it weighs''". Code is frequently made more efficient and useful by removing lines of code, rather than adding them. I believe that bit of wisdom also applies to prose and articles on this wiki. Do we have the review capacity to deal with the current velocity of contribution to this site? I'm not sure. Having witnessed rapid expansion periods on Electowiki (where I was more tolerant of low quality prose) has left a difficult cleanup task. How can we ensure that all of us (myself included) can be proud of the quality of Electowiki when (at the end of the year) we look at what we've achieved in 2020? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 23:29, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

A further refinement of this idea would be to group edits by article (i.e. if you edit the FPTP article and that edit goes into the queue, and then you make a second edit, then both edits should be lumped together as one, so that they can more quickly leave the queue.) [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 03:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

 

:''broken out from [[#Editing_velocity]] into separate topic by [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) on 18:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)'''''

Thinking idealistically and a bit ambitiously (and a bit humorously), imagine asking on the EM mailing list to focus on identifying which articles here deserve to be moved to Wikipedia, and asking for help refining those articles. I realize this is a fantasy, but sometimes that's a good starting point for figuring out which path to pursue. (I think it's in Alice In Wonderland where someone says something like "If you don't know where you are trying to go, then it doesn't matter which path you choose.") [[User:VoteFair|VoteFair]] ([[User talk:VoteFair|talk]]) 00:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

:This is an interesting idea. It seems that the Electowiki community and the [[EM list]] community are starting to diverge. Given the mixed comfort levels of using [[EM list]] by the current Electowiki community, and given the excruciatingly slow adoption of Electowiki by the [[EM list]] community, and given that Wikipedia editing is something that there's only a subset of us that are comfortable linking our Electowiki identities to our Wikipedia identities, I can see all sorts of complicating factors. What do other people think? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 18:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)