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But this? "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." I have NO idea what that means. |
But this? "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." I have NO idea what that means. |
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And this? "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." After several reads, I thought, OK, this means that the votes that already elected people are set to zero so they won't elect anyone else. Fine. But then, how does the Hare quota come into it? |
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What the page desperately needs is an example. Say, a simple fake election, with 3 to 5 candidates and 1000 voters (or scores adding up to 1000 maybe?), and going step by step through each round, showing the entire process. |
What the page desperately needs is an example. Say, a simple fake election, with 3 to 5 candidates and 1000 voters (or scores adding up to 1000 maybe?), and going step by step through each round, showing the entire process. |
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So can someone please come up with a step-by-step example? I'd do it myself if I possessed the required understanding, but I don't. Thank you. |
So can someone please come up with a step-by-step example? I'd do it myself if I possessed the required understanding, but I don't. Thank you. |
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: Hello. Perhaps I can help you understand. "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." This means that you sort the scores given to the winner and takes the voters who scored them the highest out of later rounds. |
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: "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." This is the same statement just rephrased. The Hare quota is the number of voters to set to zero to be taken out of the election. If there are 5 winners then it is 1/5. |
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: Of course this page does need an example and we are working on it. Its hard to know what people would understand the best. How about this? "Winners are selected in rounds. Each round elects the candidate with the highest total score and then designates one quotas worth of votes from that candidate's strongest supporters. Subsequent rounds include all voters who are not yet fully represented." --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 19:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 19:10, 16 February 2021
I find the Allocated Score page hugely frustrating because it is so hard to understand. Actually I've given up trying to understand it. I've read it several times and it is just hopeless.
I get the first step: "Each round elects the candidate with the highest total score." That's easy.
But this? "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." I have NO idea what that means.
And this? "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." After several reads, I thought, OK, this means that the votes that already elected people are set to zero so they won't elect anyone else. Fine. But then, how does the Hare quota come into it?
What the page desperately needs is an example. Say, a simple fake election, with 3 to 5 candidates and 1000 voters (or scores adding up to 1000 maybe?), and going step by step through each round, showing the entire process.
Sadly, it doesn't have that. It has Python code, which I for one find totally unhelpful because it involves library functions and I don't know what they do. And anyway, one shouldn't have to read code to understand an electoral system. Not everybody can read code.
I really want to understand this system, but having found no comprehensible explanation of it anywhere, I'm prepared to give up and assume that Allocated Score is just too hopelessly complicated to use in real life. I'm sure that's not the intended result, and I'm also sure I'm not the only person to look at this page and come to this conclusion.
So can someone please come up with a step-by-step example? I'd do it myself if I possessed the required understanding, but I don't. Thank you.
- Hello. Perhaps I can help you understand. "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." This means that you sort the scores given to the winner and takes the voters who scored them the highest out of later rounds.
- "After each selection, the Hare quota of ballots which scored the winner the highest is allocated to them, and as such those ballots are removed from subsequent rounds." This is the same statement just rephrased. The Hare quota is the number of voters to set to zero to be taken out of the election. If there are 5 winners then it is 1/5.
- Of course this page does need an example and we are working on it. Its hard to know what people would understand the best. How about this? "Winners are selected in rounds. Each round elects the candidate with the highest total score and then designates one quotas worth of votes from that candidate's strongest supporters. Subsequent rounds include all voters who are not yet fully represented." --Dr. Edmonds (talk) 19:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)