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== Naming ==
See <s>Talk:Voting system#Naming</s>[[Electowiki Talk:Voting system#Naming]] -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 23:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
:...and [[User talk:RobLa/Old Voting methods category|Category_talk:
:: Agreed, and I'm fine with either "system" or "method". My main concern was over "electoral" versus "voting". Sorry for spreading the discussion out in such a confusing way. I've made a few [[w:WP:BOLD|bold]] edits today as I've restructured things a bit, including renaming this article from "Voting system" to "Electoral system". I'll probably say more over at [[User talk:RobLa/Old Voting methods category|Category_talk:Voting_methods]] about other changes I'd like to make, after I remove some of the merge banners. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 01:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::: I'll leave the decision to you guys, but I'd say that "electoral" is a more complex, academic-sounding term than "voting". I think "voting methods" or "voting systems" is a much more approachable, repeatable term for someone who is new to the field. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 01:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, that makes sense, too. Ultimately they're all kind of synonyms. 01:30, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::: I did some link fixing in the comments above (including in [[User:Psephomancy]]'s comment). I just wanted to make sure we keep the record of what we discussed on this topic straight. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 00:25, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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::: I wasn't straw manning you; IIRC, EVC prefers "voting" over "electoral", so I was saying they should be able to write "voting method" rather than "electoral method" in something like the STAR voting article. I don't have enough information to judge whether electoral or voting is a better term, so I leave that to you. I'd just mention that in my limited experience, I've seen more uses of "voting" than "electoral", most likely owing to simplicity. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]])
I mean that "voting" and "electoral" are synonyms, as are "method" and "system".
* [[wikt:voting]]: action of the verb to vote
* [[wikt:electoral]]: Of, or relating to elections.
* [[wikt:system]]: A method or way of organizing or planning.
* [[wikt:method]]: A process by which a task is completed; a way of doing something
Wiktionary literally lists [[wikt:electoral system]] as a synonym of "voting system". I'm not seeing a compelling reason to prefer one over another. I looked through a few different sources to see what terms different authors use:
* Gibbard:
** "voting scheme"
** "system of voting"
* McLean
** "electoral system"
** "voting system"
** "electoral rule"
* Nanson
** "method of election"
*Baldwin
** "method of voting"
*Hogben
** "system of voting"
*Schulze
** "election method"
*Emerson M.S. Niou
** "voting rule"
*Emerson, Peter
** "voting system"
** "electoral system"
*Riker
** "voting method"
** "method of voting"
** "voting system"
* FairVote
** "voting system"
** "voting method"
* Britannica
** "electoral system"
* Electoral Reform Society
** "voting system"
** "electoral system"
''"but do you think the people who argued for the "Voting system" to "Electoral system" on English Wikipedia were wrong?"''
: Can you summarize their arguments? They had multiple long discussions about it, but did Wikipedia just defer to the first name of the article because the discussion was going nowhere?
Remember [[w:Fredkin's paradox|Fredkin's paradox]]... — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 01:55, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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