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The problem is, such a profile P may make it impossible for c to become the Condorcet winner; looking at all the profiles P where a wins (we must increment by 2 otherwise we continue to have a tie):
The problem is, such a profile P may make it impossible for c to become the Condorcet winner; looking at all the profiles P where a wins (we must increment by 2 otherwise we continue to have a tie):

(updating to use N to hopefully become clearer --[[User:Marcosb|Marcosb]] ([[User talk:Marcosb|talk]]) 21:52, 4 August 2021 (UTC))


P1:
P1:
{{ballots|
{{ballots|
abc: 5
abc: 3N + 2
acb: 2
acb: 2N
bca: 3
bca: 3N
bac: 2
bac: 2N
cab: 3
cab: 3N
cba: 2}}
cba: 2N}}


P2:
P2:
{{ballots|
{{ballots|
abc: 3
abc: 3N
acb: 4
acb: 2N + 2
bca: 3
bca: 3N
bac: 2
bac: 2N
cab: 3
cab: 3N
cba: 2}}
cba: 2N}}


P3:
P3:
{{ballots|
{{ballots|
abc: 4
abc: 3N + 1
acb: 3
acb: 2N + 1
bca: 3
bca: 3N
bac: 2
bac: 2N
cab: 3
cab: 3N
cba: 2}}
cba: 2N}}

It becomes clear that in Profile P results in some unavoidable truths:


* If we add only a single abc or acb vote, a loses to or ties with c (a=7N + 1, c = 8N); so we must add 2
It becomes clear that in Profile P where a tie is broken & a wins, a wins because they are the Condorcet winner, so it cannot be true that c is the Condorcet winner.
* For N=1, a is the Condorcet winner (& the premise "c is the Condorcet winner" does not hold); for any N>1, a loses to c (& thus the premise "a wins in P" does not hold)
* If we add 2N instead of 2 (to meet the premise "a wins for all N"), then a becomes the Condorcet winner for all N


--[[User:Marcosb|Marcosb]] ([[User talk:Marcosb|talk]]) 17:20, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
--[[User:Marcosb|Marcosb]] ([[User talk:Marcosb|talk]]) 17:20, 4 August 2021 (UTC)