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::: This is covered in the post I linked. The government is that which is formed by the president its called the executive branch in most systems. This is distinct from "The House" which is the legislative branch. The house is the same as the as the Parliament. In a parliamentary systems the executive branch (government) is a subset of the legislative branch (House). In the US they are distinct. In the US there is a two party systems so the party not in power is the opposition. It is not really that different. What this article is about is the step to get the set of executive from the elected officials. In the US the president is elected and then appoints them all. Most are not elected. In a parliamentary system the leader of the biggest party in parliament is made the Prime Minister and they select the cabinet form the rest of the parliament. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 18:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
::: This is covered in the post I linked. The government is that which is formed by the president its called the executive branch in most systems. This is distinct from "The House" which is the legislative branch. The house is the same as the as the Parliament. In a parliamentary systems the executive branch (government) is a subset of the legislative branch (House). In the US they are distinct. In the US there is a two party systems so the party not in power is the opposition. It is not really that different. What this article is about is the step to get the set of executive from the elected officials. In the US the president is elected and then appoints them all. Most are not elected. In a parliamentary system the leader of the biggest party in parliament is made the Prime Minister and they select the cabinet form the rest of the parliament. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 18:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


Would [[w:Matrix vote|Matrix vote]] be an example? — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 18:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
:::: Would [[w:Matrix vote|Matrix vote]] be an example? — [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]] ([[User talk:Psephomancy|talk]]) 18:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

::::: Yes. Electing the whole of the executive branch from the parliament is an option and this is one way to do it. Clearly this is not possible in a presidential system --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 19:20, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

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User:Dr. Edmonds, this is a specifically British/European concept? Can you clarify that in the intro? Should it really be linked from the Main Page? — Psephomancy (talk) 16:27, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Psephomancy No, all systems result in a government/executive branch in the end. Germany, the US and all the countries using the westminster system all do this in different ways. The topic of reform for this sort of thing is also quite important but does not get much attention from the election science community. I am more well informed on parliamentary systems and have put down what I can for them on this page. Somebody should add some more content for presidential systems. I think the major reform efforts there are with open primaries and electoral college. In both these systems the actual formation process tends to be "find the head of state and let them appoint the rest of the government (cabinet/staff/ect). There was a good discussion of all this here --Dr. Edmonds (talk) 16:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't believe there's any such concept in the US. "The government" is just "the set of all elected representatives". There is no "formation of government" or "opposition party", etc. Maybe you mean that the same thing happens, but under different names? — Psephomancy (talk) 16:59, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
This is covered in the post I linked. The government is that which is formed by the president its called the executive branch in most systems. This is distinct from "The House" which is the legislative branch. The house is the same as the as the Parliament. In a parliamentary systems the executive branch (government) is a subset of the legislative branch (House). In the US they are distinct. In the US there is a two party systems so the party not in power is the opposition. It is not really that different. What this article is about is the step to get the set of executive from the elected officials. In the US the president is elected and then appoints them all. Most are not elected. In a parliamentary system the leader of the biggest party in parliament is made the Prime Minister and they select the cabinet form the rest of the parliament. --Dr. Edmonds (talk) 18:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Would Matrix vote be an example? — Psephomancy (talk) 18:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes. Electing the whole of the executive branch from the parliament is an option and this is one way to do it. Clearly this is not possible in a presidential system --Dr. Edmonds (talk) 19:20, 28 March 2020 (UTC)