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[[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy]], the restricted version of Participation that you claim IRV and Condorcet fail, "A can't be harmed by adding a vote that bullet-votes for A", is called mono-add-plump. Here's a link that shows that at least one Condorcet method passes it: [https://rangevoting.org/SmithIRV.html]. I think the Minmax-y ones also do (Schulze, RP, etc). IRV passes mono-add-top, which is a stronger (more general) version of mono-add-plump, and thus also passes mono-add-plump. I don't know about STAR, but you should probably find a source given that the other two claims were wrong. I've removed the section for now. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 11:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

: Thanks for catching this. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 18:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

: Thanks for catching this. Edit: Actually, I didn't say "A can't be hurt by adding bullet votes for A", I said the voter can't be hurt by bullet voting. So consider that in IRV and STAR, adding a bullet vote could help a voter's favorite eliminate their lesser evil, and then their favorite loses later rounds. For Condorcet, while I am not admittedly not being rigorous there, I'm sure that adding bullet votes for Favorite could similarly start a Condorcet cycle that helps elect a Greater evil. [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 18:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)