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I started a conversation about COI at [[Electowiki:COI]]. Please join it at [[Electowiki_talk:COI]]. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 23:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
== Identity ==
I have a lot to say about identity. But maybe we should have a conversation about it over on [[User_talk:RobLa/identity]]. I highly encourage y'all to create <code>User:wheeeee/identity</code> pages. (at least, <code>User:wheeeee</code> should create one). -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 00:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
== Recent changes is no longer working. ==
It seems that the "Recent changes" page now errors out with "Invalid value was provided for loading Structured Discussions content". Could you investigate? [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 12:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
:It's working for me (as of this writing). Are you still seeing a problem with it? If so, the next step will be for one of us to [https://phabricator.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/ drop a note in the Miraheze bug tracker] describing how to reproduce the problem. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 16:51, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
:: It works if I'm logged out, but I get the error if I'm logged in. I checked on both FF and Chrome. I also can't seem to log in to phabricator: it says my username is invalid. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 17:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
::: Sorry it's not working for you. Remind me to file a Phabricator task for you tomorrow if you don't hear anything back sooner. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 20:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
:::: I'm just going to test a hunch: could you try doing the following steps? The steps:
::::# go to an incognito window in your browser ("Incognito" in Chrome, "Private Window" in Firefox)
::::# Visit this URL (but ''don't'' close the private window):
::::#* https://electowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
::::# Now ''log in'' (still in your private window)
::::# See if it's still broken
:::: This ''might'' help us diagnose the problem. I'm still going to file a Phab task for you, but I'm curious... -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 21:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
::::: Hey, I think I found the cause of this but either my internet gave up on me or IRCCloud and Discord both went down. I updated the Phabricator ticket Rob opened and will take it as a sign I should sleep. Those with issues should change there max days shown in RecentChanges down to a smaller amount and I will have a look in the morning. Thanks, [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 21:36, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
::::: Assuming I was meant to visit the page from the private window, what I get is this:
:::::: Central user log in
:::::: No active login attempt is in progress for your session.
:::::: Return to the previous page.
::::: So it seems to still be broken! [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 10:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::: That is a completely separate issue that is probably to do with incognito blocking cookies. The easiest fix for [[Special:RecentChanges]] is to lower the max days shown via [[Special:Preferences]]. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
:The issue is now Fixed. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
::Yes, that did it. Thanks! [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 19:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
::[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] - thank you! -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 19:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
== Strange message when editing as anonymous ==
This is the message anonymous users get when trying to edit articles:
"You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
You must confirm your email address before editing pages. Please set and validate your email address through your user preferences."
But anonymous users don't have email addresses or user preferences, so shouldn't the message instead be telling them to log in? [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 15:44, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
:An email address is required to edit this wiki. The email address can be for a provider that ensures anonymity for their users. All that we ask here at [[electowiki]] is that the editor provide an email address. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 06:05, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
:: I understand that. What I mean is that the "permission denied" message when you're not logged in suggests that you set your email address in your user preferences, but there's no user preferences if you're not logged in. So something along the lines of "please verify your email by creating an account or logging in" would be more informative. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 12:40, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
== Database query bug ==
It seems that some search patterns makes the database consistently err. For instance, try to search for "abc- def" without quotes (https://electowiki.org/w/index.php?search=abc-+def&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go). This produces an exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError". I'm not sure where to submit this bug report, so here it goes :-) [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 19:00, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks for reporting this, [[User:Kristomun]]! I've relayed it on to the Miraheze folks using the bug tracker: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8338 -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 08:47, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
:: An update: the bug is actually a problem with [[MediaWiki]] that [[Miraheze]] isn't in a good position to fix. Here is the upstream bug report: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221560 , which was filed in 2019, but according to one commenter, it dates back to 2014. Wikimedia isn't likely to place a high priority on the issue, because it doesn't affect the Wikimedia wikis (since none of them use the MediaWiki default search engine), and Miraheze isn't likely to switch to the same search engine that Wikimedia is using, because configuring and maintaining that search engine requires completely different skills than just using the search component that comes with the standard MediaWiki database. That impasse is likely to last a while. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 20:18, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
== Monroe method ==
Something's up with the [[Monroe's method]] article: it doesn't render TeX or inline cites but instead dumps them as plaintext. Is this a Wiki bug? [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 19:09, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
:Not sure, and I'm a little busy right now. You're more likely to get a timely response over on [[meta:Community noticeboard]]. In the meantime, I'd be delighted if you joined me at one of my "Tuesday at Two" events on Whereby (https://whereby.com/robla). -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 22:10, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
:: I've been kept from doing so lately, but I'll see if the opportunity presents itself next time. In any case, thanks for bringing it to my attention :-) [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 13:31, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
== Thanking in recent changes? ==
Would it be possible to have Thank links on user contributions on the Recent changes page to thank users for their edits without having to go to the page's history first? [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 08:28, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Kristomun]], I'm not sure what you mean. This sounds like it's probably either a [[Miraheze]] or a [[MediaWiki]] feature request. See [[meta:Request features]] to request features from Miraheze, or perhaps keep an eye on the "[[Project:Feature requests|Electowiki:Feature requests]]" page (a.k.a."[[Project:Feature requests]]" page) for other suggestions. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 23:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
:: That's a good point. I'll try there, but to explain my suggestion: I wanted to give thanks to Kevin Venzke for showing that Symmetrical ICT does not pass FBC. So I thought that the natural way would be to click a "Thank" link on the recent changes page. But there is no such link; to give him thanks, I have to go to Symmetrical ICT, then to its page history, and then there's a thank link for each change. This seems a bit roundabout compared to just having such a link on the recent changes page. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 09:03, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
::: Ah, now I understand what you're asking for; thanks for the explanation! That would be a change to the extension itself (see "[[mw:Extension:Thanks]]"), though there's also a hacky self-service way of changing it for yourself. As I discovered on the talk page for the extension, someone else [[mw:Extension talk:Thanks#Please_add_a_thanks_button_to_recent_changes_log|also requested the "thanks" link in 2021]], and were pointed to the bug tracker (Phabricator) for the project with a link to [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90404 task T90404 "Add Thank link on Recent Changes pages"] filed in 2015. If you're really feeling dedicated, it would seem that someone else wrote a user script to do this: "[[w:User:Enterprisey/rc-thanks.js]]". That user script ''should'' work on electowiki, but no warranty is expressed or implied. In short, you're not alone in wanting that functionality, and can even use [[w:Wikipedia:User scripts|MediaWiki's userscript functionality]] to get it. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 01:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
== EM issues ==
Something seems to be up with the election-methods list. If I try to send messages to it, they just disappear into the void (don't get posted) and I can't access my user settings or ask for a password reminder - it just gives a 500 error. Could you check if something has happened to the server? I sent a mail to you but I'm not sure if that arrived either. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 22:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
: Hi [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]], your email arrived (and I just responded this evening; sorry again for the slow response). -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 02:50, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
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