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== Participants ==
SR Stephane Rouillon
JH Jobst Heitzig
JG James Green-Armytage
KV Kevin Venzke
MO Mike Ossipoff
JL Juho Laatu
CB Chris Benham
RL Rob Lanphier
JF Jeff Fisher


== Statements and agreement by category ==
== Statements and agreement by category ==
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DEGREE OF AGREEMENT BY... (INITIALS)
DEGREE OF AGREEMENT BY... (INITIALS)


* What are the goals of single-winner election methods?
=== What are the goals of single-winner election methods? ===


SR JH JG KV MO
SR JH JG KV MO JL CB RL JF
to elect a winner
to elect a winner
++ ++ ++ ++ ++
++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
to provide a social order (=ranking)
to provide a social order (=ranking)
++ -- 0 0 0
++ -- 0 0 0 + 0 0 -
to make people vote "honestly"
to make it probable that voters vote honestly
++ + ? ++ 0
+ + ++ ++ ++ ++ +
( ++ + ? ++ 0 ++ )
to get rid of the lesser-of-2-evils problem
to allow people to vote honestly
++
+ + ++ ++ + + ++ ++
to gain detailed information about voters' preferences
to gain detailed information about voters' preferences
+ + + + ++
+ + + + ++ ++ 0 + 0
to give voters with no information about others' preferences equal power
to give voters with no information about others' preferences equal power
++ + + + +
++ + + + + ++ ++ + +
to give both majorities and minorities a fair amount of power
to give both majorities and minorities a fair amount of power
++ ++ - ? -
++ ++ - ? - ++ - + ++
to provide majority rule when broader consensus cannot be reached
- + + 0 + +
to avoid discouraging candidates (even unlikely winners) from running
+ + ++ ++ ++ ++
to accommodate write-in votes
+


* What information should be asked for and used?
=== What information should be asked for and used? ===


SR JH JG KV
SR JH JG KV MO JL CB RL JF
Pairwise preference information (e.g. rankings) should be used
Pairwise preference information (e.g. rankings) should be used
++ + ++ + ++
++ + ++ + ++ + ++ + ++
Approval information (e.g. cutoffs) should be used
Approval information (e.g. cutoffs) should be used
+ ++ ? - +
+ ++ ? 0 + 0 + 0 ++
Cardinal ratings information should be used
Cardinal ratings information should be used
- - + -- +
- - + -- + 0 + + -
Strategic information (e.g. AERLO) should be used
Strategic information (e.g. AERLO) should be used
-- -- ? -- ++
-- -- ? -- ++ - -- 0 --
It should be possible to rank X and Y equal independently of whether they are approved
It should be possible to rank X and Y equal independently of whether they are approved
+ ++ + ? +
+ ++ + 0 + 0 ? ++ -
It should be possible to rank X over Y without the need to either rank Z over Y or X over Z
It should be possible to rank X over Y without the need to either rank Z over Y or X over Z
+ ++ ? -- ?
+ ++ ? -- ? 0 + - --
It should be possible to rank X over Y and Y over Z without the need to rank X over Z
It should be possible to rank X over Y and Y over Z without the need to rank X over Z
-- + -- -- -
-- + -- -- -- 0 -- - --
[[candidate withdrawal option|Candidate withdrawal options]] should be used with some methods
? -- + -- ? - -- - ?
Two or more rounds of voting should be used in some cases
? ? - 0 - + --
Each ranked ballot must be complete (no ties and no truncation)
-- - ++


* How should this information be interpreted?
=== How should this information be interpreted? ===


SR JH JG KV MO
SR JH JG KV MO JL RL JF
Approval information should be interpreted as cardinal rates of, say, 0 or 1
Approval information should be interpreted as cardinal rates of, say, 0 or 1
+ - + + +
+ - + + + 0 + ++
Ranking X and Y equal means X and Y should get the same probability of winning
Ranking X and Y equal means X and Y should get the same probability of winning
++ + ? ? -
++ + ? ? - + + ?
Ranking X and Y equal means the decision about X and Y should be delegated to the other voters
Ranking X and Y equal means the decision about X and Y should be delegated to the other voters
- - - - +
- - - - + 0 + +
Expressing undecidedness between X and Y means this decision should be delegated to the others
Expressing undecidedness between X and Y means this decision should be delegated to the others
++ ++ - - +
++ ++ - - + + + +
It is preferable to measure defeat strength in pairwise methods by winning votes rather than margins
++ ++ - ++ +
Ranking X and Y equal in first-place means neither should lose to the other pairwise
? ++ ? -


* What about certain types of "winners" and "losers"?
=== What about certain types of "winners" and "losers"? ===


SR JH JG KV MO
SR JH JG KV MO JL RL JF
Beats-All Winners (=Condorcet Winners) must win with certainty
Beats-All Winners (=Condorcet Winners) should always win with certainty
++ - ++ 0 --
++ - ++ 0 -- + ++ +
Beats-All Winners must not lose with certainty
Beats-All Winners should never lose with certainty
++ ++ ++ 0 ?
++ ++ ++ 0 ? + ++ +
Approval Winners must not lose with certainty
Approval Winners should never lose with certainty
- + -- -- ?
- + -- -- ? 0 + ?
Beaten-By-All Losers (=Condorcet Losers) must not win
Beaten-By-All Losers (=Condorcet Losers) should never win
++ ? ++ + --
++ -- ++ + -- - ++ ++
A Beaten-By-All Loser must not win unless s/he is an Approval Winner
A Beaten-By-All Loser should never win unless s/he is an Approval Winner
-- ++ - 0
-- -- - -- - - -
Beaten-By-All Losers must have winning probability less than 1/2
Beaten-By-All Losers should always have winning probability less than 1/2
+ + + + 0
+ + ++ + -- - ++ +
Approval Losers must not win
Approval Losers should not win
- - -- -- 0
- - -- -- -- 0 0 +
An Approval Loser must not win unless s/he is a Condorcet Winner
An Approval Loser should not win unless s/he is a Condorcet Winner
+ + -- -- 0
+ - -- -- -- ? ++ +
When >50% of voters rank X and don't vote for Y, Y should never win
-- + ++ ++ 0


* What other special properties should the winner have?
=== What other special properties should the winner have? ===


SR JH JG KV
SR JH JG KV MO JL RL JF
The winner must belong to the Smith/GeTChA/Top Set
The winner should always belong to the Smith/GeTChA/Top Set
++ - ++ -
++ - ++ - -- - ++ +
The winner must be top on at least one ballot
The winner should always be top on at least one ballot
-- ? 0 0
-- ? - 0 -- - 0 --


* What effects should certain manipulations have?
=== What effects should certain manipulations have? ===
SR JH JG KV
SR JH JG KV MO JL CB RL
Raising X on one ballot without changing anything else must not decrease X's winning probability
Raising X on one ballot without changing anything else should never decrease X's winning probability
++ ++ + ++
++ ++ + ++ + + + ++
Adding a ballot which only ranks X must not decrease X's winning probability
Adding a ballot which only ranks X should never decrease X's winning probability
++ ++ ? +
++ ++ ? + + 0 ++ ++
Adding a ballot saying "X>(whatever)" must not decrease X's winning probability
Adding a ballot saying "X>(whatever)" should never decrease X's winning probability
++ ? ? +
++ ? ? + -- + + +
Changing a ballot which only ranks X to "X>(whatever)" must not decrease X's winning probability
Changing a ballot which only ranks X to "X>(whatever)" should never decrease X's winning probability
-- - ? +
-- - ? + - + +
Changing a detail "X>Y" to "Y>X" on one ballot should be unlikely to change the winner from W to Z
Changing a detail "X>Y" to "Y>X" on one ballot should be unlikely to change the winner from W to Z
++ + ? 0
++ + ? 0 + 0 + 0
Cloning must not affect the other candidates' winning probabilities
Cloning should never affect the other candidates' winning probabilities
++ ++ + +
++ ++ + + - + + +
Nominating "noise" candidates which are not liked much should be unlikely to change the outcome
Nominating "noise" candidates which are not liked much should be unlikely to change the outcome
++ + + ++
++ + ++ ++ + + ++ +
A voter with several "favorites" shouldn't be able to get one elected by not voting for one
+ ++ ++


* Questions of trade-off
=== Questions of trade-off ===


SR JH JG KV
SR JH JG KV MO JL RL
Freedom of preference expression is more important than anti-strategic properties
Freedom of preference expression is more important than anti-strategic properties
- + ? ?
- + ? ? -- ? --
Reduced need for strategy is more important than methods' "vulnerability to strategy".
? - ++ ? ?
Efficiency is more important than simplicity
Efficiency is more important than simplicity
++ ? + ?
++ ? + ? -- ? ++

== See also ==
* [[Method evaluation poll]]
[[Category:Advocacy]]

Latest revision as of 21:25, 3 October 2023

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Degrees of agreement

++  I agree strongly
 +  I rather agree
 0  I am indifferent about this
 -  I rather disagree
--  I disagree strongly

 ?  I am undecided about this

Participants

SR  Stephane Rouillon
JH  Jobst Heitzig
JG  James Green-Armytage
KV  Kevin Venzke
MO  Mike Ossipoff
JL  Juho Laatu
CB  Chris Benham
RL  Rob Lanphier
JF  Jeff Fisher

Statements and agreement by category

STATEMENT
  DEGREE OF AGREEMENT BY... (INITIALS)

What are the goals of single-winner election methods?

  SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL  CB  RL  JF
to elect a winner
  ++  ++  ++  ++  ++  ++  ++  ++  ++
to provide a social order (=ranking)
  ++  --  0   0    0   +   0   0  - 
to make it probable that voters vote honestly
       +  +   ++      ++  ++  ++  +
( ++   +  ?   ++   0  ++ )
to get rid of the lesser-of-2-evils problem
       +  +   ++  ++   +   +  ++  ++
to gain detailed information about voters' preferences
   +   +  +   +   ++  ++   0   +  0 
to give voters with no information about others' preferences equal power
  ++   +  +   +    +  ++  ++   +  + 
to give both majorities and minorities a fair amount of power
  ++  ++  -   ?    -  ++   -   +  ++
to provide majority rule when broader consensus cannot be reached
       -  +   +        0       +  + 
to avoid discouraging candidates (even unlikely winners) from running
       +  +   ++          ++  ++  ++
to accommodate write-in votes
                                  +

What information should be asked for and used?

  SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL   CB  RL   JF
Pairwise preference information (e.g. rankings) should be used
  ++   +  ++   +  ++   +   ++   +   ++
Approval information (e.g. cutoffs) should be used
   +  ++   ?   0   +   0    +   0   ++
Cardinal ratings information should be used
   -   -   +  --   +   0    +    +    - 
Strategic information (e.g. AERLO) should be used
  --  --   ?  --  ++   -   --   0   --
It should be possible to rank X and Y equal independently of whether they are approved
   +  ++   +   0   +   0    ?  ++    - 
It should be possible to rank X over Y without the need to either rank Z over Y or X over Z
   +  ++   ?  --   ?   0    +   -   --
It should be possible to rank X over Y and Y over Z without the need to rank X over Z
  --   +  --  --  --   0   --   -   --
Candidate withdrawal options should be used with some methods
   ?  --   +  --   ?   -   --   -    ?
Two or more rounds of voting should be used in some cases
       ?   ?   -       0    -   +   --
Each ranked ballot must be complete (no ties and no truncation)
              --           -         ++

How should this information be interpreted?

  SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL  RL  JF
Approval information should be interpreted as cardinal rates of, say, 0 or 1
   +   -   +   +   +   0   +  ++
Ranking X and Y equal means X and Y should get the same probability of winning
  ++   +   ?   ?   -   +   +  ? 
Ranking X and Y equal means the decision about X and Y should be delegated to the other voters
   -   -   -   -   +   0   +  + 
Expressing undecidedness between X and Y means this decision should be delegated to the others
  ++  ++   -   -   +   +   +  + 
It is preferable to measure defeat strength in pairwise methods by winning votes rather than margins
          ++  ++       -  ++  + 
Ranking X and Y equal in first-place means neither should lose to the other pairwise
           ?  ++           ?  -

What about certain types of "winners" and "losers"?

  SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL  RL  JF
Beats-All Winners (=Condorcet Winners) should always win with certainty
  ++   -  ++   0  --   +  ++  + 
Beats-All Winners should never lose with certainty
  ++  ++  ++   0   ?   +  ++  + 
Approval Winners should never lose with certainty
   -   +  --  --   ?   0   +  ? 
Beaten-By-All Losers (=Condorcet Losers) should never win
  ++  --  ++   +  --   -  ++  ++
A Beaten-By-All Loser should never win unless s/he is an Approval Winner
  --  --   -   --      -   -  - 
Beaten-By-All Losers should always have winning probability less than 1/2
   +   +   ++  +  --   -  ++  +
Approval Losers should not win
   -   -  --  --  --   0   0  +
An Approval Loser should not win unless s/he is a Condorcet Winner
   +   -  --  --  --   ?  ++  +
When >50% of voters rank X and don't vote for Y, Y should never win
      --   +  ++          ++  0

What other special properties should the winner have?

  SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL  RL  JF
The winner should always belong to the Smith/GeTChA/Top Set
  ++   -  ++   -  --   -  ++   +
The winner should always be top on at least one ballot
  --   ?   -   0  --   -   0  --

What effects should certain manipulations have?

  SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL   CB  RL
Raising X on one ballot without changing anything else should never decrease X's winning probability
  ++  ++   +  ++   +   +   +   ++
Adding a ballot which only ranks X should never decrease X's winning probability
  ++  ++   ?   +   +   0   ++  ++
Adding a ballot saying "X>(whatever)" should never decrease X's winning probability
  ++   ?   ?   +  --   +   +   +
Changing a ballot which only ranks X to "X>(whatever)" should never decrease X's winning probability
  --   -   ?   +   -   +       +
Changing a detail "X>Y" to "Y>X" on one ballot should be unlikely to change the winner from W to Z
  ++   +   ?   0   +   0   +   0
Cloning should never affect the other candidates' winning probabilities
  ++  ++   +   +   -   +   +   +
Nominating "noise" candidates which are not liked much should be unlikely to change the outcome
  ++   +  ++  ++   +   +   ++  +
A voter with several "favorites" shouldn't be able to get one elected by not voting for one
           +  ++               ++

Questions of trade-off

   SR  JH  JG  KV  MO  JL  RL
 Freedom of preference expression is more important than anti-strategic properties
    -   +   ?   ?  --   ?  --
 Reduced need for strategy is more important than methods' "vulnerability to strategy".
        ?   -      ++   ?   ?
 Efficiency is more important than simplicity
    ++  ?   +   ?  --   ?  ++

See also