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: As for the name of the method itself, Kemeny-Young seems okay to me. It attributes credit to both Kemeny and Young, and distinguishes the method from the "other" Young method (where the winner is the candidate who becomes the CW after deleting the fewest ballots). It doesn't include the name "Condorcet", true, but neither does, say, River or Ranked Pairs. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 07:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
I agree that the [[Kemeny-Young Maximum Likelihood Method]] should be renamed to [[Kemeny–Young method]]. This would match Wikipedia, and match what the method is more often called. Of course there would be redirects from '''Kemeny-Young Maximum Likelihood Method''' and '''Condorcet-Kemeny method''', and they would point to the Kemeny-Young article.
There is nothing to merge. The separate articles must remain separate because they cover separate topics.
'''Kristomun''' is correct. Specifically the "overlap" is that I independently created the '''VoteFair popularity ranking''' method and later learned that it is mathematically equivalent to the '''Kemeny-Young method'''. That naming overlap can be added to the Kemeny-Young article, ideally the same way that it's done in Wikipedia, namely in a "history" section, which also clarifies the subtle difference that what I came up with counts support and looks for the biggest score while Kemeny counts opposition and looks for the smallest score.
What might be confusing is that '''VoteFair Ranking''' refers to a system that uses different calculation methods for different purposes. Specifically VoteFair representation ranking is analogous to a two-seat version of STV, and VoteFair party ranking is for ranking the popularity of political parties, etc. Those are in separate articles because they can be used separately, with a different underlying popularity-ranking method -- such as using '''ranked pairs''' instead of '''Kemeny-Young''' for the underlying counting/ranking.
Expressed another way, adopting '''VoteFair Ranking''' would solve a nation's many issues regarding gerrymandering, vote splitting, strategic nomination, blocking reform-minded candidates during primary elections (which is why Biden won the recent primary instead of Warren, Sanders, or Harris who may have been more popular if pairwise vote counting had been used), electoral college, accomodating third-party candidates, etc. This contrasts with what is currently popular which is to promote a single method -- such as STAR, IRV, Approval -- without looking ahead to further additional needed changes.
If this isn't clear, please ask for clarification. Thank you both for your help! [[User:VoteFair|VoteFair]] ([[User talk:VoteFair|talk]]) 19:30, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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