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, 2 years ago→Rename to "Government": I ended up moving this page from "Government formation" to "Parliamentary government formation". I also put a comment on the English Wikipedia counterpart to this page (w:Talk:Government formation) suggesting that those of us in that community rename w:Government formation to w:Parliamentary government formation. We'll see where that lands.
(→Rename to "Government": I'll be renaming this soon, either to Government or to User:Dr. Edmonds/Government formation, barring a compelling counterargument. This wiki needs a "Government" article more than it needs a "Government formation" article.) |
(→Rename to "Government": I ended up moving this page from "Government formation" to "Parliamentary government formation". I also put a comment on the English Wikipedia counterpart to this page (w:Talk:Government formation) suggesting that those of us in that community rename w:Government formation to w:Parliamentary government formation. We'll see where that lands.) |
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:: I forgot about being referred to as "you Condorcet people" and then almost immediately misspelled "Condorcet" as "Condorset" just to emphasize the point that you truly don't think that Condorcet methods (or the [[Condorcet criterion]]) are important. My comments from 2020 still stand; this is not a good article as written. Either we move this page to [[Government]] or we move it to [[User:Dr. Edmonds/Government formation]], unless someone weighs in with a compelling counterargument (preferrably someone other than [[User:Dr. Edmonds]], since a different [[Project:electowikian|electowikian]] oould break the stalemate, and [[User:Dr. Edmonds]] has made their position clear). I still maintain that this wiki needs a "Government" article more than it needs a "Government formation" article. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 09:46, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
::: [[User:Psephomancy|Psephomancy]], [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]], or [[User:Marylander | Marylander]], do any of you have opinions on if the processes and electoral methods for forming a government after the general election deserves a page? I really only know about the one system currently there so it would be great if this page could be expanded. --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 20:11, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
:::: As I understand it, this page is meant to describe the possible application of election methods, in this case for forming a government. I kind of see both your points. On the one hand, the article is about how voting methods could be used in government formation, not about government as an institution. On the other, it's a bit tangential to election methods themselves, and it would seem strange to discuss how to change something (in this case government) without at mentioning what that something is. So I would say it comes up to what style electowiki is going for.
:::: If a page on X can be relatively light on X itself and then have a long section about something that has to do with both X and voting methods, then the relabel to Government seems reasonable. But if it's more like Wikipedia (where you'd have an article on a country, and then "Politics of Country" as a separate page), then electoral reform in the service of changing government procedure could use a page of its own. In any case, it could use a rewrite/edit as [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] pointed out.
:::: A third option would be to move the relevant information to the pages on the various voting methods, so that if FPTP is used for government formation, this gets referred to there. This is in effect what pages on specialized methods like [[delegable proxy]] already do, but the information would become more fragmented by doing so. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 22:19, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
::::: A page on the process of forming a government in a Parliamentary system could be useful. An article on Government might be more useful but I'm not sure why an article on government formation would make an appropriate substitute. [[User:Marylander|Marylander]] ([[User talk:Marylander|talk]]) 07:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::: I ended up moving this page from "Government formation" to "Parliamentary government formation". I also put a comment on the [[English Wikipedia]] counterpart to this page ([[w:Talk:Government formation]]) suggesting that those of us in that community rename [[w:Government formation]] to [[w:Parliamentary government formation]]. We'll see where that lands. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 08:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
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