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On February 15, 2021, the [[EM-list|election-methods mailing list]] is celebrating its 25th anniversary.
This is information about the mailing list archives for the "[[EM-list]]" (the "election-methods" mailing list).


== Purpose ==
The list has long been intended a place for the discussion of the nitty-gritty details of single-winner election reform, the relative merits of different proportional representation systems, and the technical underpinnings of all election methods. "election-methods-list" discussions tend to be technical in nature (or at least, very laden with jargon), with the ultimate goal of providing recommendations and educational material to the electoral reform movement.


== The first message ==
== History ==
{{wikipedia|Majordomo (software)}}{{Main|EM25}}
On February 15, 2021, the election-methods mailing list (the "[[EM-list]]") is celebrating its 25th birthday!!! The EM-list is a mailing list that was started in 1996 and continues to host discussions with [[electoral system]] experts and activists.<ref>https://electorama.com/em/</ref> [[User:RobLa]] jumped the gun when he sent the "Happy Birthday" note to the mailing list.<ref>http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2021-February/002713.html</ref>


The list was started in 1996 by Rob Lanphier.<ref>First message to the new EM-list on February 15, 1996: http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/1996-February/065327.html</ref>. Rob Lanphier is "[[User:RobLa]]" on this wiki. It was started as an unofficial spinoff to the "[[ER-list]]", which was more concerned about promoting [[Instant-runoff voting|single-winner STV]] than diving into the weeds about the [[Electoral systems|theory of electoral systems]].
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Subject: New "election-methods" list<br/>
=== 1996 ===
From: Rob Lanphier <ref name="robla-at-eskimo">robla@eskimo.com was Rob's personal email address at the time. See the archived version of "[https://web.archive.org/web/19970825175036/http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/#misc " http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/#misc] to see my PGP key at the time.</ref><br />

Date: Thu Feb 15 21:34:05 PST 1996<br />
See [[EM25]] to see the first message that was sent (on February 15, 1996).<ref>{{subst:Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065327.html|title=New "election-methods" list|anchor=65327|author=Rob Lanphier}}</ref> See the following links for other messages:
To: [elections-reform, election-methods]<br />

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* February:
I'm starting up an "election-methods-list" list to discuss single-winner
** [http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/thread.html By Thread])
reform, the relative merits of different PR systems, and the technical
** [http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/subject.html By Subject]
underpinnings of all election methods. This list is intended to
** [http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/author.html By Author]
compliment, not to replace, the existing "elections-reform" list.
** [http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/date.html By Date]
</p><p>
** [http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/1996-February.txt.gz 1996-February.txt.gz] -- gzipped plain-text archive.
Please continue to discuss the various electoral reform movements in the

U.S. and throughout the world in the "elections-reform" list.
See the rest of the 1996 archive here: https://electorama.com/em/archive.html#1996
"elections-reform" is still the best forum for discussing strategies used

in reform campaigns, specific legislation addressing reform, and

educational material about reform.
==== February 1996 ====
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<ul>
What is the difference, you ask? "election-methods-list" discussions will

most likely be more technical in nature, with the ultimate goal of
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065327.html|title=New "election-methods" list|anchor=65327|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
providing recommendations and educational material to the members of
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065328.html|title=use of "who" inquiry|anchor=65328|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
"elections-reform". There have been complaints in the past that
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065329.html|title=STV ballot question|anchor=65329|author=Ed Still}}
discussions on "elections-reform" have been too technical, and
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065330.html|title=Message from Jim Lindsay|anchor=65330|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
"election-methods-list" has been created to offload the more prolific
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098092.html|title=STV ballot question|anchor=98092|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
technical discussions to "elections-reform". It lets folks use
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065331.html|title=closed/open list hybrids?|anchor=65331|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
"elections-reform" to stay abreast of current activity in electoral
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065333.html|title=uuencoding and ftp (was Re: Are all of us able to browse web?)|anchor=65333|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
reform without fear of their inbox exploding.
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098094.html|title=closed/open list hybrids?|anchor=98094|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
</p><p>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065335.html|title=[ER] Nader poopoos prop rep?! (fwd)|anchor=65335|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
To subscribe to "election-methods-list", send mail to majordomo at eskimo.com with no subject line (any subject will be ignored), and the following one
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065336.html|title=ER/EM FAQs|anchor=65336|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}
line in the body of your message:
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098097.html|title=ER/EM FAQs|anchor=98097|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
</p><p>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065338.html|title=Voting Paradoxes|anchor=65338|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}
subscribe election-methods-list
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065339.html|title=Defects in various election systems|anchor=65339|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}
</p><p>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098100.html|title=Defects in various election systems|anchor=98100|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
My apologies to anybody who stumbled on the web page that I set up a week<br />ago at [https://web.archive.org/web/19970817085911/http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/politics/index.html http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/cpr/election-methods.html] and tried <br />to subscribe (and failed, because the list didn't exist yet). In the time I<br />was waiting for the list to get set up, I set up the web page.<br />Everything should *now* work according to the instructions on that page.<br />
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098101.html|title=ER/EM FAQs|anchor=98101|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
</p><p>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065343.html|title=CVD home page|anchor=65343|author=Ed Still}}
That's all there is to it. Let me know if you have any questions about <br />the new list.<br />
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065344.html|title=What is PR?|anchor=65344|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
</p><p>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065345.html|title=Multiple Same Choices|anchor=65345|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}
Thanks,<br />Rob Lanphier<br />[<insert Rob's old email address here>]<ref name="robla-at-eskimo" /><br />[https://web.archive.org/web/19970825175036/http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/ http://www.eskimo.com/~robla] [<< Rob's old website]
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098105.html|title=Multiple Same Choices|anchor=98105|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
</p>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098106.html|title=CVD home page|anchor=98106|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
</blockquote>
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098107.html|title=Multiple Same Choices|anchor=98107|author=[[Mike Ossipoff]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098108.html|title=Multiple Same Choices|anchor=98108|author=[[Mike Ossipoff]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098109.html|title=Defects in various election systems|anchor=98109|author=Matthew Shugart}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098110.html|title=Defects in various election systems|anchor=98110|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065352.html|title=New Hypermail Archive|anchor=65352|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065353.html">No subject|anchor=65353|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065354.html|title=MSC reply|anchor=65354|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098114.html|title=MSC reply|anchor=98114|author=[[Rob Lanphier]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098115.html|title=Multiple Same Choices|anchor=98115|author=Lucien Saumur}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098116.html|title=MSC reply|anchor=98116|author=[[Mike Ossipoff]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098117.html|title=Multiple Same Choices|anchor=98117|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098118.html|title=Defects in various election systems|anchor=98118|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/098122.html|title=Defects in various election systems|anchor=98122|author=Matthew Shugart}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065360.html|title=(Fwd) {SW} Outline-driven group writing|anchor=65360|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065361.html|title=(Fwd) Re: {SWC} Outline-driven group writing|anchor=65361|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065362.html|title=Messages of Single-Winner Committee available|anchor=65362|author=[[Stephen Eppley|Steve Eppley]]}}
* {{Template:A-LINK|url=http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com//1996-February/065364.html|title=Hitler-Stalin-Middle Example Again|anchor=65364|author=DEMOREP1 at aol.com}}

=== Later history ===
During its first few years, "election-methods" it was on "eskimo.com", and was originally a "Majordomo" list. In 2003, the list moved to the newly-formed [[Electorama.com]] website on [[Dreamhost]], and transitioned to becoming a [[wikipedia:GNU Mailman|GNU Mailman]]-based mailing list.<ref>[http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2003-March/074889.html <nowiki>[EM] election-methods list move</nowiki>] -- Rob Lanphier, 2003 March 4</ref> [[EM-list]] remains hosted on Dreamhost, but the old "[[Electowiki]]" wiki, hosted on Dreamhost was copied the [[Miraheze]] infrastructure in 2018 and rebranded "[[electowiki]]" (with a lowercase "e"). The old "[[Electowiki]]" wiki is still running to serve up history of articles written prior to 2018.

== Future ==

Who knows?


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This is information about the mailing list archives for the "EM-list" (the "election-methods" mailing list).

Purpose

The list has long been intended a place for the discussion of the nitty-gritty details of single-winner election reform, the relative merits of different proportional representation systems, and the technical underpinnings of all election methods. "election-methods-list" discussions tend to be technical in nature (or at least, very laden with jargon), with the ultimate goal of providing recommendations and educational material to the electoral reform movement.

History

Wikipedia has an article on:
Main article: EM25

On February 15, 2021, the election-methods mailing list (the "EM-list") is celebrating its 25th birthday!!! The EM-list is a mailing list that was started in 1996 and continues to host discussions with electoral system experts and activists.[1] User:RobLa jumped the gun when he sent the "Happy Birthday" note to the mailing list.[2]

The list was started in 1996 by Rob Lanphier.[3]. Rob Lanphier is "User:RobLa" on this wiki. It was started as an unofficial spinoff to the "ER-list", which was more concerned about promoting single-winner STV than diving into the weeds about the theory of electoral systems.

1996

See EM25 to see the first message that was sent (on February 15, 1996).[4] See the following links for other messages:

See the rest of the 1996 archive here: https://electorama.com/em/archive.html#1996


February 1996

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