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The '''election-methods mailing list''' (or the '''EM-list''') is a mailing list that was started in 1996 and continues to host discussions with [[electoral system]] experts and activists.
This is the official homepage for the '''election-methods mailing list'''.


<ul>
* '''[http://lists.electorama.com/listinfo.cgi/election-methods-electorama.com Subscribe to election-methods list]'''
*'''Official website''': https://electorama.com/em/
* '''[http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/ election-methods list archives]'''
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*''Archives (2015 and later)'': http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/
*''Archives (1996 through 2018)'': https://electorama.com/em/archive.html
</ul>


On "election-methods-list", we discuss the nitty-gritty
details of single-winner election reform, the relative merits of different
proportional representation systems, and the technical underpinnings of
all election methods. "election-methods-list" discussions
tend to be technical in nature (or at least, very laden with jargon), with the ultimate goal of
providing recommendations and educational material to the electoral reform movement.


== Purpose ==
Those that want
The list is for discussion of the nitty-gritty details of single-winner election reform, the relative merits of different proportional representation systems, and the technical underpinnings of all election methods. "election-methods-list" discussions tend to be technical in nature (or at least, very laden with jargon), with the ultimate goal of providing recommendations and educational material to the electoral reform movement.
to have in-depth discussions about the technical subtleties of election
methods can use "election-methods-list" to discuss those things without
fear of reprisal from those who aren't interested.


== Code of Conduct ==
== History ==


=== 1996 through 2003 ===
Please come prepared to defend the statements that you make,
{{wikipedia|Majordomo (software)}}
and to directly answer the questions that others ask of you. This list
was set up to increase communication between people interested in new forms
of election methodology, not as a sounding board for those who wish to
drown out opposing views with prolific repetition of statements already
made. When conflicts arise, please use this list to understand ''fully''
why the other side feels the way they do by honest intellectual inquiry.
And when those who feel differently than you are trying to understand why
you feel the way you do, please answer as honestly and directly as possible.


The list was started in 1996 by Rob Lanphier.<ref name=":0">First message to the new EM-list on February 15, 1996: http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/1996-February/065327.html</ref><ref>Rob Lanphier is "[[User:RobLa]]" on this wiki</ref>. It was started as an unofficial spinoff to the "[[ER-list]]", which was more concerned about promoting [[Instant-runoff voting|single-winner STV]] than diving into the weeds about the [[Electoral systems|theory of electoral systems]].
Hopefully this is all common sense, but sadly not common enough (hence
the reason for this message). In summary, please ask, answer, and be humble.


During its first few years, it was on [https://eskimo.com eskimo.com], and was originally a "Majordomo" list.
== Frequently Asked Questions List ==


=== 2003 until today ===
Most things discussed on this list should be documented on [[Main Page|Electowiki]].


In 2003, the list moved to the newly-formed [[Electorama.com]] website on [[Dreamhost]], and transitioned to becoming a [[wikipedia:GNU Mailman|GNU Mailman]]-based mailing list.<ref>[http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/2003-March/074889.html <nowiki>[EM] election-methods list move</nowiki>] -- Rob Lanphier, 2003 March 4</ref> [[EM-list]] remains hosted on Dreamhost, but the old "[[Electowiki]]" wiki, hosted on Dreamhost was copied the [[Miraheze]] infrastructure in 2018 and rebranded "[[electowiki]]" (with a lowercase "e"). The old "[[Electowiki]]" wiki is still running to serve up history of articles written prior to 2018.
Additionally, there are a number of unofficial sources which define many of the terms used on the list:
* The Wikipedia project is working on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Voting_Systems Wikipedia:WikiProject Voting Systems]
* Phil Hunt once maintained the [http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/pol/votefaq.txt Voting Systems FAQ], which he posted periodically to [news:alt.politics.elections the alt.politics.elections newsgroup], among others. It hasn't been updated in quite a while, though.
* [http://electionmethods.org ElectionMethods.org] has an overview of election methods and the definitions associated with them, along with a number of interesting opinion/analysis articles.
* Blake Cretney has set up [http://condorcet.org/emr/ an election methods resource page] provides useful definitions of methods, criteria, and related concepts.
* Mike Ossipoff composed [http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/cpr/single-winner.html an explanation of single winner methods].
* The [http://dmoz.org/Society/Politics/Campaigns_and_Elections/Voting_Systems/ Netscape Open Directory Project Voting Systems page] has a pretty complete list of alternate voting systems. [http://www.google.com Google] also carries Open Directory with page rankings (very cool feature), so you can see [http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Politics/Campaigns_and_Elections/Voting_Systems/ the ranked version of the Voting Systems Category].
* James Green-Armytage's [http://fc.antioch.edu/~james_green-armytage voting methods resource page] provides a detailed methods survey as well as original proposals and argument essays.
* Rob LeGrand's [http://userfs.cec.wustl.edu/~rhl1/rbvote/ ranked ballot voting methods] page describes and evaluates several ranked ballot methods, including a very wide variety of Condorcet completion methods.


The archives and the latest subscription information for EM-list can be found at:
== Email free subscription ==


*'''https://electorama.com/em/'''
If you really don't want to receive mail directly from the list, but still want to post, you should still [http://lists.electorama.com/listinfo.cgi/election-methods-electorama.com subscribe], but change your subscription by [http://electorama.com/em/subscription-options.html visiting the subscription options page]. You will then be given the option to "Disable Email Delivery"


== Archive ==
=== 25th Birthday===
:''main article: [[EM25]]''
The 25th Birthday of the EM-list happened on Monday, February 15. That's when [[User:RobLa]] sent the first email to the list.<ref name=":0" />


== Notation==
There are several archives available for this list:
{{See also|Composite methods|ABIF}}
Over the years, participants on the list developed a notation for describing elections using lower-ASCII characters,<ref>"lower ascii" is vernacular for "ISO 646". More information about ISO 646: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_646</ref> since characters other than lower-ASCII tended to get garbled by mailing list archives and email delivery systems.


Electoral systems have long been chained using "//" between systems to denote [[composite methods]]. For example, "Smith//Plurality" a system where the candidates are narrowed to the Smith set, followed by the candidate who receives a plurality of first place votes. "Smith//Condorcet" was frequently used to describe methods which allowed any member of Smith set who wins any method that complies with the [[Condorcet winner criterion]].<ref>http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/1996-April/065534.html</ref>
* [http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/ Electorama.com archive] - This is the official archive for this list, which has all postings back to the starting of the list in 1996.
* The VA Linux Mail Archive service ([http://www.mail-archive.com mail-archive.com]) carries everything back to 2000, [http://www.mail-archive.com/election-methods-list%40eskimo.com/ archived here]. Messages from March 2003 and later [http://www.mail-archive.com/election-methods-electorama.com%40lists.electorama.com/ can be found here].
* [http://gmane.org GMane] maintains [http://news.gmane.org/gmane.politics.election-methods/ a great archive of the election-methods list]. They have a great web interface, and additionally have an NNTP feed which can be read using standard [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsreader Usenet news reader software].


Separately, sets of ranked ballots have frequently expressed using a subset of [[ABIF]] over the years.
Additionally, [http://mail-archive.com mail-archive.com] also carries [http://www.mail-archive.com/election-methods-electorama.com%40lists.electorama.com/maillist.rdf an RDF/RSS feed of the mailing list], used by syndication sites like My Netscape and [http://my.userland.com My Userland].


== Future ==
Speaking of [http://my.userland.com My Userland], they now provide an [http://my.userland.com/viewChannel$3894 election-methods-list "channel"] which allows you to read this list off of My Userland.
This section contains a couple of items about the future of the EM-list (as of February 2021):


=== C4ES Election Theory Forum ===
----
The [[C4ES Election-Theory Forum]] was rumored to be shutting down as early as June 2020.<ref>Announcement from the [[Center for Election Science]]: https://forum.electionscience.org/t/alternatives-to-the-ces-forum/699 (author: Felix Sargent, Chair of [[C4ES]])</ref> However, as of this writing in February 2021, it is still appears to be operational.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://forum.electionscience.org/t/gambling-to-select-for-robustly-functional-voting-algorithms/915|title=Gambling to Select for Robustly Functional Voting Algorithms|date=2021-02-05|website=Voting Methods Forum|language=en-US|access-date=2021-02-12}}</ref>
== Links ==


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''The election-methods list is maintained by [http://robla.net/ Rob Lanphier].''

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Latest revision as of 20:36, 18 March 2024

The election-methods mailing list (or the EM-list) is a mailing list that was started in 1996 and continues to host discussions with electoral system experts and activists.


Purpose

The list is for discussion of the nitty-gritty details of single-winner election reform, the relative merits of different proportional representation systems, and the technical underpinnings of all election methods. "election-methods-list" discussions tend to be technical in nature (or at least, very laden with jargon), with the ultimate goal of providing recommendations and educational material to the electoral reform movement.

History

1996 through 2003

Wikipedia has an article on:

The list was started in 1996 by Rob Lanphier.[1][2]. It was started as an unofficial spinoff to the "ER-list", which was more concerned about promoting single-winner STV than diving into the weeds about the theory of electoral systems.

During its first few years, it was on eskimo.com, and was originally a "Majordomo" list.

2003 until today

In 2003, the list moved to the newly-formed Electorama.com website on Dreamhost, and transitioned to becoming a GNU Mailman-based mailing list.[3] EM-list remains hosted on Dreamhost, but the old "Electowiki" wiki, hosted on Dreamhost was copied the Miraheze infrastructure in 2018 and rebranded "electowiki" (with a lowercase "e"). The old "Electowiki" wiki is still running to serve up history of articles written prior to 2018.

The archives and the latest subscription information for EM-list can be found at:

25th Birthday

main article: EM25

The 25th Birthday of the EM-list happened on Monday, February 15. That's when User:RobLa sent the first email to the list.[1]

Notation

See also: Composite methods and ABIF

Over the years, participants on the list developed a notation for describing elections using lower-ASCII characters,[4] since characters other than lower-ASCII tended to get garbled by mailing list archives and email delivery systems.

Electoral systems have long been chained using "//" between systems to denote composite methods. For example, "Smith//Plurality" a system where the candidates are narrowed to the Smith set, followed by the candidate who receives a plurality of first place votes. "Smith//Condorcet" was frequently used to describe methods which allowed any member of Smith set who wins any method that complies with the Condorcet winner criterion.[5]

Separately, sets of ranked ballots have frequently expressed using a subset of ABIF over the years.

Future

This section contains a couple of items about the future of the EM-list (as of February 2021):

C4ES Election Theory Forum

The C4ES Election-Theory Forum was rumored to be shutting down as early as June 2020.[6] However, as of this writing in February 2021, it is still appears to be operational.[7]

Links

  1. ↑ a b First message to the new EM-list on February 15, 1996: http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/1996-February/065327.html
  2. ↑ Rob Lanphier is "User:RobLa" on this wiki
  3. ↑ [EM] election-methods list move -- Rob Lanphier, 2003 March 4
  4. ↑ "lower ascii" is vernacular for "ISO 646". More information about ISO 646: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_646
  5. ↑ http://lists.electorama.com/pipermail/election-methods-electorama.com/1996-April/065534.html
  6. ↑ Announcement from the Center for Election Science: https://forum.electionscience.org/t/alternatives-to-the-ces-forum/699 (author: Felix Sargent, Chair of C4ES)
  7. ↑ "Gambling to Select for Robustly Functional Voting Algorithms". Voting Methods Forum. 2021-02-05. Retrieved 2021-02-12.
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