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: I agree that you are right to be conservative. The reason I got into electoral reform was that the propaganda I was seeing from FairVote hurt the scientist part of me.

: Anyway, to the task at hand. Much of the early development of the idea was done with [https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~bwbecker/ Byron Becker] where we debated with a few others about how to solve issues with his system [http://localpr.ca/basics/index.html local PR]. This was part of the deliberation process for the BC referendum. Once that group was clear that I had something I went to [[Warren Smith]] who at first did not believe that such a system could work and then later admitted it did and generalized it. He called his generalization 'the corner trick' referring to how when he invented Harmonic Voting his derivations assumed a smooth function. The generalization he invented contained Harmonic voting and an Optimal version I made with my more restrictive Vote Unitarity constraint. He circulated this discovery to Forest Simmons and Toby Pereira. He liked the general version and spent some time trying to come up with a better constraint than vote unitarity. I proved that vote unitarity in this case was equivalent to Cauchy's functional equation for mapping Utility to score and I was happy with that since I would think this should be a natural constraint on Utility. From there I reached out to Sara Wolk who formed a committee to determine the best Cardinal multiwinner system. The committee contained Jameson Quinn who advocated for [[Allocated Score]] and parker friedland who invented [[Sequential Monroe]]. Clay Shentrup and David Hinds where also major contributors. Many systems and criteria were debated on a private Loomio forum. Nobody ever doubted that Vote Unitarity was well defined but some argued that it was not needed. This seems fair as many also make similar arguments about Proportional Representation. Warren did not join the group but I kept him up to date with any discoveries.

: As for publicly available. I think there were some in the old CES forum. Warren did a review of [[Sequentially Spent Score]] if I recall correctly. The first one in the new forum was [https://forum.electionscience.org/t/different-reweighting-for-rrv-and-the-concept-of-vote-unitarity/201 this]. I eventually ended up posting some of the results from the equal vote committee on the CES forum because Loomio did not handle images well. Here is the [https://forum.electionscience.org/t/utilitarian-sum-vs-monroe-selection/355 link]. I recently posted a [https://forum.electionscience.org/t/wolf-committee-results/519 summary] of all the remaining models. The CES forum is pretty bad a being on topic but vote unitarity get spoken of a lot. To be clear, not everybody is convinced it is needed but everybody understands what it is. For example [https://forum.electionscience.org/t/a-compromise-between-vote-unitarity-and-thiele-pr-methods/420 this post] relaxes Vote Unitarity a bit to help with Free Riding. Agni Gopireddy posted [[Sequentially Spent Score]] and vote unitary on reddit to make sure we were not in an echo chamber. I think there is a page called STOPFPTP or something. Anyway, we got good feedback from Ciaran Dougherty the inventor of 'Apportioned Cardinal Voting' which we had already eliminated do to if failing some criteria. I can find those posts if needed.

: To your EPOV point, all of the recent contributions other than your own have been done by members of the committee working on this. Psephomancy is helping with code, sarawolk is the organizer, BetterVotingAdvocacy‎ is a member too. And some of the pages were submitted on behalf of others in the committee by me. The Equal Vote Coalition has decided to start contributing more to electowiki. Hopefully this momentum keeps up and more keep joining. But if that is the case then what is the POV of this site if not that of its contributors? As the founder of course you are entitled to veto power but why not just join the committee too? --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 06:49, 17 December 2019 (UTC)