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: You can fix [[Left, Center, Right|LCR-type]] center squeeze by passing Condorcet, but this will automatically fail all three of later-no-help, later-no-harm, and favorite betrayal. Some such methods could possibly be called IRV - e.g. [[Benham's method]] or [[BTR-IRV]]. But it's pretty difficult to say at what point a fixed IRV method is no longer IRV.
: You can fix [[Left, Center, Right|LCR-type]] center squeeze by passing Condorcet, but this will automatically fail all three of later-no-help, later-no-harm, and favorite betrayal. Some such methods could possibly be called IRV - e.g. [[Benham's method]] or [[BTR-IRV]]. But it's pretty difficult to say at what point a fixed IRV method is no longer IRV.
: I don't know if it's possible to pass later-no-harm, later-no-help, and do the right thing in a center squeeze situation. While Condorcet rules out the two LNHs, it could be the case that a weaker criterion still fixes center squeeze; and this criterion could possibly be compatible with the LNHs. But nobody on the election-methods list has come up with such a method. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 19:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
: I don't know if it's possible to pass later-no-harm, later-no-help, and do the right thing in a center squeeze situation. While Condorcet rules out the two LNHs, it could be the case that a weaker criterion still fixes center squeeze; and this criterion could possibly be compatible with the LNHs. But nobody on the election-methods list has come up with such a method. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 19:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

== Re: Assessing IRV, the advantages of normal runoff voting over IRV. ==

My suggested improvement to IRV, [[user:RalphInOttawa/Standard Vote]], has that CHANCE FOR APPEAL, in that the supporters of the first instant runoff’s runner-up are essentially given this opportunity with a second instant runoff. And the supporters of the first runoff winner get the same deal with a third instant runoff if they need it. The campaigning by opinion poll leaders would remain MORE POSITIVE because the voter’s order of preference can’t be changed between the instant runoffs. There is no forgiving and forgetting over what was said during a negative campaign.

[[User:RalphInOttawa|RalphInOttawa]] ([[User talk:RalphInOttawa|talk]]) 08:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)