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The title is misleading. The term Robin voting has frequently been used for Condorcet methods in general. There is no reason why this term should refer to Copeland-Borda exclusively. [[User:MarkusSchulze|MarkusSchulze]] ([[User talk:MarkusSchulze|talk]]) 18:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC) |
The title is misleading. The term Robin voting has frequently been used for Condorcet methods in general. There is no reason why this term should refer to Copeland-Borda exclusively. [[User:MarkusSchulze|MarkusSchulze]] ([[User talk:MarkusSchulze|talk]]) 18:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC) |
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:I think the [[Ranked Robin#History|"#History" section of this article]] is (perhaps) a bit misleading, but I'm okay with a rebranding effort around Llull/Copeland/Condorcet methods, along with a descriptive name that doesn't borrow from the last name of a white guy. I think we need to get out of the habit of naming alternative voting systems after the people that "invented" them, since we're all standing on the shoulders of giants anyway. I may just make some changes to the history section to make it more chronological (starting with [[Ramon Llull]]'s work rather than the most recent rebranding efforts of [[Condorcet winner criterion|Condorcet-winner compliant]] methods). -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 20:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC) |
:I think the [[Ranked Robin#History|"#History" section of this article]] is (perhaps) a bit misleading, but I'm okay with a rebranding effort around Llull/Copeland/Condorcet methods, along with a descriptive name that doesn't borrow from the last name of a white guy. I think we need to get out of the habit of naming alternative voting systems after the people that "invented" them, since we're all standing on the shoulders of giants anyway. I may just make some changes to the history section to make it more chronological (starting with [[Ramon Llull]]'s work rather than the most recent rebranding efforts of [[Condorcet winner criterion|Condorcet-winner compliant]] methods). -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 20:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC) |
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== Comparison to Black's method == |
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I'm curious how this method compares to the method called "[[Black's method]]" here on [[electowiki]] and on English Wikipedia? I seem to recall a discussion about this on the [[electionscience Discord server]] (or perhaps in one of the reddit threads), but I can't remember if it was Black or one of the others that [[Ranked Robin]] was most similar to. How should we categorize this method (other than as a generic system that meets the [[Condorcet winner criterion]])? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 02:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC) |
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Misleading Title
The title is misleading. The term Robin voting has frequently been used for Condorcet methods in general. There is no reason why this term should refer to Copeland-Borda exclusively. MarkusSchulze (talk) 18:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- I think the "#History" section of this article is (perhaps) a bit misleading, but I'm okay with a rebranding effort around Llull/Copeland/Condorcet methods, along with a descriptive name that doesn't borrow from the last name of a white guy. I think we need to get out of the habit of naming alternative voting systems after the people that "invented" them, since we're all standing on the shoulders of giants anyway. I may just make some changes to the history section to make it more chronological (starting with Ramon Llull's work rather than the most recent rebranding efforts of Condorcet-winner compliant methods). -- RobLa (talk) 20:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Comparison to Black's method
I'm curious how this method compares to the method called "Black's method" here on electowiki and on English Wikipedia? I seem to recall a discussion about this on the electionscience Discord server (or perhaps in one of the reddit threads), but I can't remember if it was Black or one of the others that Ranked Robin was most similar to. How should we categorize this method (other than as a generic system that meets the Condorcet winner criterion)? -- RobLa (talk) 02:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)