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Formats[edit source]

Various formats that I've seen:


6: A>B
1: A>C>H>D>B>G>F>E>L>I>K>J
6: C>D
3: E>A>C>H>D>B
3: E>B>D>C>A
2: E>F>G>H>A>B
2: E>G>F>H>B>C
4: F>D>G>H>A
1: F>G>E>H>B>D>C>A>L
4: G>B>F>H>C
1: H>G>F>E>D>C>B>J>I>K>L>A
9: H>G>F>E>D>C>B>L>I>J>K>A
10: K>J>I>L>A>B>C>D>E>F>G>H

  • 100: Escher
  • 110: Andre>Nader>Gore
  • 18: Nader>Gore
  • 21: Gore>Nader
  • 6: Gore>Bush
  • 45: Bush>Gore

  • 33: A>B>>C
  • 22: B>A>>C
  • 45: C>>A=B

49 Z
26 Y
25 X>Y
 3 X

or

51 A>C
47 B
2  C
5  D

# of voters Preferences
1 A > B > C > L
1 A > B > L > C
3 B > C > A > L
1 C > L > A > B
1 L > A > B > C
2 L > C > A > B

https://rangevoting.org/SF07HumanRead.txt

67590: GAVINNEWSOM > UNDERVOTES > UNDERVOTES
4236: UNDERVOTES > UNDERVOTES > UNDERVOTES
3998: GAVINNEWSOM > WILMAPANG > UNDERVOTES
3825: HAROLDMHOOGASIAN > UNDERVOTES > UNDERVOTES
2566: GAVINNEWSOM > HAROLDMHOOGASIAN > UNDERVOTES
2539: WILMAPANG > UNDERVOTES > UNDERVOTES
2255: QUINTINMECKE > AHIMSAPORTERSUMCHAI > JOHNRINALDI
1715: GAVINNEWSOM > WILMAPANG > AHIMSAPORTERSUMCHAI
1213: GAVINNEWSOM > HAROLDMHOOGASIAN > WILMAPANG
...

https://rangevoting.org/DublinNorthSorted.txt

   800 : M>F>D>A
   680 : D>F>M>A
   506 : F>M>D>A
   486 : M>D>F>A
   429 : F>D>M>A
   367 : D>M>F>A
   343 : J>A
   278 : B>A
   ...

https://rangevoting.org/JLburl09.txt

---the votes---
840: W
355: K>M
326: K
271: W>H
256: W>M
234: K>M>H
200: M>K
178: M
...

45 A
28 B>C
27 C>B
100

Majority has class "votesABC" which I don't know what that is:

31 A > B > C
29 B > A > C
20 C > B > A
20 C > A > B

  • 15: A>B>C>D
  • 51: A>C>B>D
  • 4: D>A>B>C
  • 4: D>A>C>B
  • 4: D>B>A>C
  • 4: D>B>C>A
  • 4: D>C>A>B
  • 4: D>C>B>A

  • 5: A>B>C>D
  • 17: A>C>B>D
  • 8: D

40 A>B | C  (i.e. only C is disapproved)
25 B | A>C
35 C | A>B
100


Do we have a preference?


I think the value of being able to copy and paste into existing ranked ballot calculators is important, and those all have the same format:


http://www.ericgorr.net/condorcet/

12:0>3>2>1
3:1>0>2>3
25:1>2>0>3
21:2>1>0>3
12:3>0>1>2
21:3>0>2>1
6:3>1>0>2

https://web.archive.org/web/20050407202015/http://www.eskimo.com:80/~robla/politics/condorcet-front.html

40:3>2  # 40 ballots where Martha is preferred over Sally (and both implicitly over Joe)
9:2>3   # 9 ballots, Sally over Martha (over Joe)
16:2>1  # 16 ballots, Sally over Joe (over Martha)
20:1=2  # 20 ballots, Joe and Sally tied, both preferred over Martha 
15:1>2  # 15 ballots, Joe over Sally (over Martha)

http://www.cs.angelo.edu/~rlegrand/rbvote/calc.html

# 1980 American presidential election
45:Reagan>Anderson>Carter
20:Anderson>Carter>Reagan
35:Carter>Anderson>Reagan

So I think the recommended format would be just a pre tag and spaces for formatting and colons for the multipliers, and we should make it as pretty as possible within those confines:

100: Escher
110: Andre > Nader > Gore
18:  Nader > Gore
21:  Gore  > Nader
6:   Gore  > Bush
45:  Bush  > Gore

with template formatting:

100: Escher
110: Andre > Nader > Gore
18:  Nader > Gore
21:  Gore  > Nader
6:   Gore  > Bush
45:  Bush  > Gore

Though the unordered list with colons can be copied and pasted too:

  • 100: Escher
  • 110: Andre>Nader>Gore
  • 18: Nader>Gore
  • 21: Gore>Nader
  • 6: Gore>Bush
  • 45: Bush>Gore

See also https://github.com/pivot-libre/pivot-libre.github.io/blob/master/bff.md is a file format proposal. See also the comments on it: https://github.com/pivot-libre/pivot-libre.github.io/issuesPsephomancy (talk) 20:27, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Would it be possible to automatically add ":" if they're missing (e.g. turn "51 A" into "51: A"), add spaces (e.g. "51:A>B" to "51: A > B" or "51: A>B"), and autoindent/justify the numbers? Kristomun (talk) 00:19, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Possibly with Lua, but I don't know how to use that yet. — Psephomancy (talk) 00:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

The style sheet is stored in Template:Ballots/styles.css if anyone wants to tweak it. I'm not a web designer. — Psephomancy (talk) 00:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't like equals signs[edit source]

{{{1}}}
11 A>B>C
 5 B>A>C
 9 C>B>A

The least annoying solution seems to be:

11 A>B>C
 5 B>A=C
 9 C>B>A

and this is done automatically by VisualEditor. — Psephomancy (talk) 00:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)