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The title is misleading. The term Robin voting has frequently been used for Condorcet methods in general. There is no reason why this term should refer to Copeland-Borda exclusively. [[User:MarkusSchulze|MarkusSchulze]] ([[User talk:MarkusSchulze|talk]]) 18:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
:I think the [[Ranked Robin#History|"#History" section of this article]] is (perhaps) a bit misleading, but I'm okay with a rebranding effort around Llull/Copeland/Condorcet methods, along with a descriptive name that doesn't borrow from the last name of a white guy. I think we need to get out of the habit of naming alternative voting systems after the people that "invented" them, since we're all standing on the shoulders of giants anyway. I may just make some changes to the history section to make it more chronological (starting with [[Ramon Llull]]'s work rather than the most recent rebranding efforts of [[Condorcet winner criterion|Condorcet-winner compliant]] methods). -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 20:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
: I don't think the problem is (not) borrowing names from white guys, but instead that both "ranked" and "robin" are very general terms, so that the name seems more like "ranked choice voting" than "instant-runoff voting". That is, Markus argues that it describes something that could (if you look at it right) apply to every Condorcet method, and thus it shouldn't have the sole right to the term. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 00:06, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
== Comparison to Black's method ==
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I'm curious how this method compares to the method called "[[Black's method]]" here on [[electowiki]] and on English Wikipedia? I seem to recall a discussion about this on the [[electionscience Discord server]] (or perhaps in one of the reddit threads), but I can't remember if it was Black or one of the others that [[Ranked Robin]] was most similar to. How should we categorize this method (other than as a generic system that meets the [[Condorcet winner criterion]])? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 02:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
: I seem to recall that this method is Copeland//Borda, whereas Black is Condorcet//Borda (or Condorcet,Borda; those are the same because there's only one CW). If I'm right, then that should probably be pointed out in the article. It lacks a quick summary of just what kind of method it is, like the first sentence of [[Black's method]]. [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 00:06, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
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