Talk:Political spectrum: Difference between revisions
Content added Content deleted
(→Talk page format: made a number of changes to the talk page format on this page. But I didn't make any changes to anyone else's comment (though I did embellish the #Deferring to Wikipedia and #Horseshoe theory section headers)) |
Dr. Edmonds (talk | contribs) |
||
| Line 17: | Line 17: | ||
:: I suppose I'm saying that I don't see how drawing a horseshoe on the Telos chart is any more informative than drawing a clockwise/counterclockwise arrow on a Political Compass chart; and thus that the association requires more explanation. For that matter, the Nolan chart may show the horseshoe theory just as easily as (if not moreso than) the Telos chart. So I'd think it would need its own section - something about political spectra that are represented by curved surfaces. |
:: I suppose I'm saying that I don't see how drawing a horseshoe on the Telos chart is any more informative than drawing a clockwise/counterclockwise arrow on a Political Compass chart; and thus that the association requires more explanation. For that matter, the Nolan chart may show the horseshoe theory just as easily as (if not moreso than) the Telos chart. So I'd think it would need its own section - something about political spectra that are represented by curved surfaces. |
||
:: As for Friedman being right, I was referring to economic right. The 2D chart on this page puts classical liberalism right-of-center, and in particular, the Political Compass authors consider him to be quite a ways on the right; see [[https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2]]). [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 08:50, 3 October 2020 (UTC) |
:: As for Friedman being right, I was referring to economic right. The 2D chart on this page puts classical liberalism right-of-center, and in particular, the Political Compass authors consider him to be quite a ways on the right; see [[https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2]]). [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 08:50, 3 October 2020 (UTC) |
||
::: I think you are confusing the political spectrum and political compass in both cases. [[W: Horseshoe theory]] refers to the 1D political spectrum not the the 2D political compass. The 2D political compass would be useful for showing the horseshoe but the Telos model was invented to explain the "paradox" illustrated by the Horseshoe theory. Its about intend and origin. As for Friedman, The free market is a centrist opinion its just that nobody is on the economic right any more. The Mercantile system is the on the right of the economic spectrum. The left and right in the political compass does not translate to left and right in the 1D spectrum. They put the orientation that way for a reason but it is only about economic freedom and does not really get into different forms. The political compass is not really any better than the spectrum. In this instance the 1D spectrum is better. The fact that the Telos Model covers all this really shows its strength --[[User:Dr. Edmonds|Dr. Edmonds]] ([[User talk:Dr. Edmonds|talk]]) 01:59, 5 October 2020 (UTC) |
|||
== Talk page format == |
== Talk page format == |
||