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:: I've done a good deal of work on the Spanish, Italian, French, and a few other versions of Wikipedia since we last spoke. See [[https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conjunto_de_Smith&action=history]], [[https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ensemble_de_Smith&action=history]], [[https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_di_Smith]], etc. which I (User:GreekApple123 on Wikipedia) created. A few of my translations (mostly into Chinese) have been deleted, or (for German or other languages) slapped with "translation needs improvement" tags, but I feel reasonably comfortable with the languages I cited above to start editing in them here. I only plan to translate a few of the articles in Electowiki to start off with, and for those articles I do translate, only some part of them, so you need not worry about the alternate-language versions of the wiki being flooded with hard-to-fix errors by me. So, are you comfortable with this, and if so, how would I get started? [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 00:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
:: I've done a good deal of work on the Spanish, Italian, French, and a few other versions of Wikipedia since we last spoke. See [[https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conjunto_de_Smith&action=history]], [[https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ensemble_de_Smith&action=history]], [[https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_di_Smith]], etc. which I (User:GreekApple123 on Wikipedia) created. A few of my translations (mostly into Chinese) have been deleted, or (for German or other languages) slapped with "translation needs improvement" tags, but I feel reasonably comfortable with the languages I cited above to start editing in them here. I only plan to translate a few of the articles in Electowiki to start off with, and for those articles I do translate, only some part of them, so you need not worry about the alternate-language versions of the wiki being flooded with hard-to-fix errors by me. So, are you comfortable with this, and if so, how would I get started? [[User:BetterVotingAdvocacy|BetterVotingAdvocacy]] ([[User talk:BetterVotingAdvocacy|talk]]) 00:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)


::: I'm not comfortable yet, and I won't be for at least six months. It's going to take more than a couple of weeks for you to become a seasoned and trusted editor on [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/GreekApple123 eswiki], [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/GreekApple123 frwiki], [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/GreekApple123 itwiki], [https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/GreekApple123 ptwiki], [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/GreekApple123 nlwiki], or [https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Contributions/GreekApple123 zhwiki]. Barring an influx of new, multi-lingual editors ''who the Electowiki community trusts'', it's no guarantee that a clean, six-month track record on any one of those wikis is going to build the necessary level of trust on Electowiki, since very few of us in the current community speak the languages associated with those other wikis.
::: I'm not comfortable yet, and I won't be for at least six months. It's going to take more than a couple of weeks for you to become a seasoned and trusted editor on [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreekApple123 eswiki], [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreekApple123 frwiki], [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreekApple123 itwiki], [https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreekApple123 ptwiki], [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreekApple123 nlwiki], or [https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreekApple123 zhwiki]. Barring an influx of new, multi-lingual editors ''who the Electowiki community trusts'', it's no guarantee that a clean, six-month track record on any one of those wikis is going to build the necessary level of trust on Electowiki, since very few of us in the current community speak the languages associated with those other wikis.
::: You mentioned: "''A few of my translations (mostly into Chinese) have been deleted, or (for German or other languages) slapped with 'translation needs improvement' tags''". Was this one of the translations: [[w:de:Copeland-Methode]]? I'm very tempted to send a note to [[w:User:Karsten11|the editor who deleted that article]] and better understand why that particular article was deleted. It would appear from [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5168347&action=history the history of "wikidata:Q5168347 (Copeland's method)"] that User:GreekApple123 was responsible for making the interlanguage link to the deleted article. My hunch is that this is one of the new articles you were talking about that was "slapped" with a "translation needs improvement" tag.
::: You mentioned: "''A few of my translations (mostly into Chinese) have been deleted, or (for German or other languages) slapped with 'translation needs improvement' tags''". Was this one of the translations: [[w:de:Copeland-Methode]]? I'm very tempted to send a note to [[w:User:Karsten11|the editor who deleted that article]] and better understand why that particular article was deleted. It would appear from [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q5168347&action=history the history of "wikidata:Q5168347 (Copeland's method)"] that User:GreekApple123 was responsible for making the interlanguage link to the deleted article. My hunch is that this is one of the new articles you were talking about that was "slapped" with a "translation needs improvement" tag.
::: I am deeply appreciative of the people who review and refine the ample prose on this wiki. I think that Electowiki has been improving over the past year, after the prior years of stagnation due to the login issues. But I fear that adding new languages is going to make review ''much'' more difficult, since I fear that English prose is being added faster than the current community can review it. Can we review this in late November 2020, after you (and others) have had a chance to establish yourselves as trusted editors in those communities? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 03:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
::: I am deeply appreciative of the people who review and refine the ample prose on this wiki. I think that Electowiki has been improving over the past year, after the prior years of stagnation due to the login issues. But I fear that adding new languages is going to make review ''much'' more difficult, since I fear that English prose is being added faster than the current community can review it. Can we review this in late November 2020, after you (and others) have had a chance to establish yourselves as trusted editors in those communities? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 03:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Links

Re: Links not working as you were expecting; I wasn't sure whether we were wedded to the "Electowiki" name. "Project" is a hard-coded default that will always go the "project" page/namespace. Therefore if we added a page at Electowiki:FAQ, then changed the namespace to "Electoarama:", Project:FAQ would automatically change to Electorama:FAQ. That's why I added the links like that. -- (unsigned 12:07, 24 January 2005 24.18.253.49)

Blanked spam pages

Nothing shows up in Recent Changes, but I see that there are two slightly active sysops, you and Homunq. As you might know, I have WMF sysop experience, and I have the bit on some other wikis. I could do some cleanup, like those blanked spam pages, besides if I'm here for that, I might also contribute to some voting systems articles, I have a bit of knowledge and experience there.

I could also create a delete template, for some other admin to use, but ... I thought I'd ask for the sysop bit.

Captcha should be implemented, I'd say, the regular captcha, if possible. I'm sure you know a hundred times as much as I on this. I think that people with regular election methods interest could be encouraged to use this wiki.... --Abd 20:14, 15 October 2012 (PDT)

User account migration

Would it be a good idea for you to message everyone on the old wiki through the email system and encourage them to create accounts on this one under the same username? So they take over their existing user pages, as in https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T3624#73414Psephomancy (talk) 03:42, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Electowidget

Is Electowidget still a part of this wiki? Kristomun (talk) 11:46, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Electowiki in other languages

User:RobLa, what are the options for translating various articles into other languages, so that more readers can access them? I'm somewhat familiar with Spanish, and would be interested in translating several articles if the interface is simple enough. BetterVotingAdvocacy (talk) 04:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

The typical way to do this on a wiki of this size is to append the ISO language code (see https://wiki.secondlife.com for an example). However, I don't think that the content and structure of this wiki is yet mature enough to do a competent job with translation. I could be wrong though. Have you made any edits to the articles on Spanish Wikipedia yet? I would feel more comfortable branching out into Spanish if we had the help of a seasoned editor from Spanish Wikipedia (and you could become that editor, even if you aren't a seasoned editor yet). -- RobLa (talk) 05:08, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
I can start building experience in doing work on Condorcet articles on Spanish Wikipedia and then report back after some time, sure. Also, I've uploaded several images here that have English text, and can easily change them to other languages if desired, but what would you suggest as the best way to link the various images together? Can an image have different language-versions, or should the modified image be uploaded under a separate title? BetterVotingAdvocacy (talk) 05:21, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons policy is to use SVG whenever possible for images so the text can be easily translated. See [1] for instance. — Psephomancy (talk) 03:44, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Psephomancy! Yup, this is the correct answer. -- RobLa (talk) 04:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I've done a good deal of work on the Spanish, Italian, French, and a few other versions of Wikipedia since we last spoke. See [[2]], [[3]], [[4]], etc. which I (User:GreekApple123 on Wikipedia) created. A few of my translations (mostly into Chinese) have been deleted, or (for German or other languages) slapped with "translation needs improvement" tags, but I feel reasonably comfortable with the languages I cited above to start editing in them here. I only plan to translate a few of the articles in Electowiki to start off with, and for those articles I do translate, only some part of them, so you need not worry about the alternate-language versions of the wiki being flooded with hard-to-fix errors by me. So, are you comfortable with this, and if so, how would I get started? BetterVotingAdvocacy (talk) 00:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm not comfortable yet, and I won't be for at least six months. It's going to take more than a couple of weeks for you to become a seasoned and trusted editor on eswiki, frwiki, itwiki, ptwiki, nlwiki, or zhwiki. Barring an influx of new, multi-lingual editors who the Electowiki community trusts, it's no guarantee that a clean, six-month track record on any one of those wikis is going to build the necessary level of trust on Electowiki, since very few of us in the current community speak the languages associated with those other wikis.
You mentioned: "A few of my translations (mostly into Chinese) have been deleted, or (for German or other languages) slapped with 'translation needs improvement' tags". Was this one of the translations: w:de:Copeland-Methode? I'm very tempted to send a note to the editor who deleted that article and better understand why that particular article was deleted. It would appear from the history of "wikidata:Q5168347 (Copeland's method)" that User:GreekApple123 was responsible for making the interlanguage link to the deleted article. My hunch is that this is one of the new articles you were talking about that was "slapped" with a "translation needs improvement" tag.
I am deeply appreciative of the people who review and refine the ample prose on this wiki. I think that Electowiki has been improving over the past year, after the prior years of stagnation due to the login issues. But I fear that adding new languages is going to make review much more difficult, since I fear that English prose is being added faster than the current community can review it. Can we review this in late November 2020, after you (and others) have had a chance to establish yourselves as trusted editors in those communities? -- RobLa (talk) 03:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)