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this isn't the same as Bucklin. EAR is proportional whilst multi-member Bucklin allowed bullet voting and has no quota.
<small>unsigned comment -- [[Special:Contributions/Philpope|Philpope]] 21:00, 11 October 2021‎ (UTC)</small>
:: That's what the "transferable vote" part of Bucklin Transferable Vote refers to: a quota mechanism with "transferred votes" (reweighting after election). [[User:Kristomun|Kristomun]] ([[User talk:Kristomun|talk]]) 21:20, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
:: Bucklin Transferable Vote refers to a specific method. https://rangevoting.org/BucklinTV.html the definition of EAR is wide so possibly BTV is a type of EAR... [[User:Philpope|Philpope]] ([[User talk:Philpope|talk]]) 20:12, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
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== Merge with another article? ==
{{ping|Philpope}}: based on [[User:Kristomun]]'s comment, it would seem that your new article ("[[Expanding Approvals Rule]]") should be merged with the "[[Bucklin Transferable Vote]]" article. Based on my cursory investigation (trying to map electowiki articles to [[English Wikipedia]] articles), it would seem that merging with "[[Proportionality for Solid Coalitions]]" may be appropriate. If I were feeling reckless, I'd just perform a sloppy merge of all three articles (and I may just do that). At a minimum, I believe that [[User:Philpope]] needs to put ''something'' on their user page, per [[User:RobLa/Welcome|my welcome letter]]. -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 04:30, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 
:This isn't a new article - someone else created it two and a half years ago. The wikipedia articles on 'Bucklin Voting' and 'Proportionality for Solid Coalitions' aren't particularly accurate and the latter omits references to a lot of important sources e.g. Dummet's Quota Borda System in 'Principles of Electoral Reform', Hill's sequential stv, gazeley's stv-edc, etc. EAR is a class of methods but the authors also specified a particular implementation of it which is definitely distinct from BTV. I'm not sure that BTV as defined by Quin and Stern is an implementation of EAR - will have to read their algorithm more closely. I appreciate it might not be appropriate to necessarily have separate pages for every single method. I tend to agree with your policy of trying to mirror wikipedia article structure but would like to have a discussion of whether what is currently on wikipedia currently is satisifactory or needs expanding. I have responded to your welcome message on my user page. [[User:Philpope|Philpope]] ([[User talk:Philpope|talk]]) 11:21, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 
:another point while I think about it. Bucklin voting was historically used for multi-member elections, but the way it was implemented wasn't proportional, didn't satisfy PSC, and wasn't the method defined recently as BTV by Quin and Stern. [[User:Philpope|Philpope]] ([[User talk:Philpope|talk]]) 11:27, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 
::{{ping|Philpope}}: sorry to put you on the defensive. Could you please fill in your user page ("[[User:Philpope]]") with a brief introduction to the [[electowiki]] community, even if it's just to say "''I wish to remain anonymous, but I know a thing or two about this topic, and you should trust the assessments I make because ______.''". I would really appreciate it. You can learn more about me on my user page (at "[[User:RobLa]]"). Thanks! -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 09:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)